For what it's worth, an incremental backup of my laptop (~3TB data) to a
USB-C HDD took 2 weeks.  The initial backup was MUCH faster.

-derek

On Fri, May 30, 2025 1:24 pm, [email protected] wrote:
> Hello,
> rdiff-backup has many advantages but speed isn't one of those. I'm sure we
> can improve the situation but this takes time.
> Kr, Eric
>
> On 30 May 2025 16:20:29 CEST, Duane Abrames <[email protected]> wrote:
>>(I sent this yesterday, but have not seen it come back to me, nor in the
>>online archives.  Not sure if there is some additional approval process,
>> or
>>if I was just too quick to send this after joining.  Apologies if it
>> makes
>>a duplicate.)
>>
>>Hello, new to the list and rdiff-backup.
>>
>>First let me describe my situation.  I have just started using
>> rdiff-backup
>>to back up my home server, which contains various music, videos, ebooks,
>>comics, and audio books ( 34.0 TB in 29,244 folders and 460,277 files).
>>The source and target servers are both Unraid boxes, so I am running
>>rdiff-backup in a Docker container.  I had initially set up just one
>>container on the target server, and just mounted the source data via NFS.
>>My initial backup finished last night, coming in at about 6.5 days. There
>>seemed to be a lot of latency involved in copying the files; I was
>> watching
>>files get created, and I watched a directory with 40 or so files of less
>>than 10mb each take 5 minutes or more to copy, and this was the 'initial'
>>backup, so there would be no comparison, just copying.
>>I suspected that performance would be better over SSH than NFS, so I
>> added
>>a container to the source server and reconfigured things so that the
>> paths
>>over ssh would match the former NFS paths.  After setting all that up, I
>>kicked off an increment.  That increment has been running for 10 hours
>> now,
>>and using rdiffweb I can see that it is going through checking the
>> folders,
>>because the version times change from 10 hours ago (before checking) to 7
>>days ago (after).  It looks like even an increment will take days.  I was
>>hoping to get at least one a day, but if this is the best I can do, I
>> might
>>have to fall back to weekly backups, or evaluate another option.  I wish
>> I
>>had started this increment with additional verbosity so I might be able
>> to
>>tell what it's actually doing.  I feel like at this speed, it must be
>> doing
>>checksums or full comparisons, since I can get the 'metadata' (file time,
>>size, owner, etc) for the whole share in about 3 minutes with ls -lR.
>> Does
>>my experience seem typical, and if not, how should I begin nailing down
>> the
>>source of the issue?  I kind of assumed that since there were probably
>> less
>>than 200 new/changed files, the increment would be measured in minutes
>> (or
>>at worst hours) and not days.
>>
>>Some system specs, just so everyone knows I'm not trying to run this on a
>>Dorito chip:
>>Source:  AMD 5600G / 32gb RAM / 7.2k spinning SATA disk x 9 (with parity)
>>on IBM SAS controller
>>Target:   AMD 5500 / 64gb RAM / 7.2k spinning SATA disk x6 (without
>> parity)
>>on mobo / add-in SATA.
>>Connectivity between the two is gigabit ethernet using a dumb switch.
>>Servers are less than 10 feet apart, so cable length might be 20 or 30
>> feet
>>since cables run under the house.
>>
>>I don't have a lot of tools inside the containers to troubleshoot with,
>> but
>>they are being pulled from my personal github container repo, so I can
>>always add things and rebuild as needed.  The base OS in the container is
>>ubuntu/latest.  I went into this project excited (as excited as one can
>> be
>>about backups anyway,) as having increments to go back to, and still
>> having
>>the filesystem be usable as-is seemed like eating the cake and keeping it
>>too (Is the cake a lie?) I am less enthused now, and wondering if I will
>>end up with a plain rsync (which is basically what I had a few months ago
>>before some hardware deaths) or using a backup product that packages
>>backups in its own native format so that any use or restore from the
>> system
>>requires the use of the backup software.
>>
>>Thanks for your time and attention.
>>-Duane
>


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       Derek Atkins                 617-623-3745
       [email protected]             www.ihtfp.com
       Computer and Internet Security Consultant


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