Thanks Paolo - I should have found this before posting!

Cheers

James

On 9 May 2021, at 15:05, Paolo Tosco <paolo.tosco.m...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi James,

IIRC that's a known open issue with the way spirocyclic pseudochiral centers 
are handled:

https://github.com/rdkit/rdkit/issues/3490

Cheers,
p.

On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 10:15 AM James Davidson 
<j.david...@vernalis.com<mailto:j.david...@vernalis.com>> wrote:
Dear All,

I am having some issues with tetrahedral stereochemistry perception in RDKit 
(2020.09.4) for a certain class of molecule.
Here’s an example (rendered using cdk-depict):

<image002.png>
https://www.simolecule.com/cdkdepict/depict/bot/svg?smi=F%5BC%40H%5D1C%5BC%40%40%5D2(C1)C%5BC%40H%5D(Cl)C2&w=-1&h=-1&abbr=off&hdisp=bridgehead&showtitle=false&zoom=3.65&annotate=cip&r=0

If I try to work with this class of molecule in RDKit, it seems impossible(?) 
to assign stereo information to the central, spirocyclic stereo centre.
Exporting back out as SMILES shows that the information is not present:

m = Chem.MolFromSmiles('F[C@H]1C[C@@]2(C1)C[C@H](Cl)C2')
print(Chem.MolToSmiles(m))

>>>   F[C@H]1CC2(C1)C[C@H](Cl)C2

The spiro-atom is clearly being identified as a potential stereo-centre 
(strangely, the CIP labels aren’t being generated for the other two centres – 
just the parity info is returned):

centers = Chem.FindMolChiralCenters(m, includeUnassigned=True, 
useLegacyImplementation=False)
print(centers)

>>>   [(1, 'Tet_CW'), (3, '?'), (6, 'Tet_CCW')]

If I look at the atom properties for the central atom, I can see 
_ChiralityPossible == 1, but I also see _ringStereochemCand == False.
Is this the problem?

Any help/advice greatly appreciated!

Kind regards

James
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