Holt,
a place just a little closer to you is ALT Fabrication in Argyle. That's just 
in Denton County off SH377.
It's where I found ground plates, and pretty much anything else made of copper. 
http://www.altfabrication.com/
Thanks for choosing North Texas Renewable Energy

Jim Duncan
North Texas Renewable Energy Inc
817.917.0527
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.ntrei.com  


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: RE-wrenches 
  Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 10:41 AM
  Subject: [RE-wrenches] Braided grounding wire


  Anybody know a source for braided grounding wire? Internet search 
fruitless......

  Holt E. Kelly
  Holtek Fireplace & Solar Products
  500 Jewell Dr.
  Waco,Tx. 76712
  254-751-9111
  254-228-9621 (cell)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Kurt Albershardt 
    To: RE-wrenches 
    Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 12:57 AM
    Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] motor starting issues (was: offgrid 
systemquestion)


    --On Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:57 AM -0700 Peter Parrish <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:
    >
    > Any motor will need both a voltage and current to operate properly, and 
they tend to draw more and more current as the source (inverter) voltage drops.


    Back to basic physics:

    Depending on design, electric motors can be constant power or constant 
torque (or some combination of two) devices.

    Three phase AC motors are generally simpler in design and better behaved 
than either either single phase AC motors or DC motors.  Permanent magnet 
synchronous 3Ø AC motors (available now) closely approach the theoretical 
limits of electromechanical motor systems in general.

    Modern power electronics and control systems give us essentially perfect 
control of voltage, current, and frequency in AC systems.

    Intelligently combining the above allows us to design efficient 
electromechanical systems which match nearly any complex supply impedance.  
These systems also happen to live longer, fail less often, and reduce both 
battery bank and inverter requirements.

    The market (arguably free on so many levels, and obviously not on so many 
others) can address this using current technology.   System sizing math not has 
changed fundamentally in several decades but we are getting closer to those 
fundamental limits.

    Industrial systems are a bit ahead of the consumer market in some areas but 
behind in others.  As one very basic example, Turbocor's maglev compressor has 
created a few waves in the commercial and light industrial sector but I fully 
expect some fascinating trickle-down benefits over next few years 
<http://www.turbocor.com/products_technology/>







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