PVWatts is a good general estimator when you fine-tune the derate factor. For 
single crystal and multicrystalline arrays, I generally use 0.65 for 
battery-based PV and inverter systems and 0.82 for batteryless inverter 
systems. PVWatts annual results are l5% low for Unisolar arrays because PVWatts 
uses the crystalline silicon temperature coefficient.

Even though PVWatts2 may seem more accurate, it does not factor in unique local 
climate conditions like California coastal morning and afternoon fog or inland 
persistent winter Tule fog. However, NREL's climate data does include LA's 
"June gloom" see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_Gloom

For flat roofs in snowy climates like the Unisolar project in Rochester NY, I 
deduct 30% from PVWatt's November through March estimates for a fairly accurate 
annual estimate. Powerlight (now SunPower) also uses an additional 30% monthly 
derating for flat roofs in snowy locations.

PVWatts does not account for really dusty and dirty air locations. Bill Brooks 
worked at PVUSA and is very knowledgeable about power loss from soiling from 
agricultural dust in central California. Bill also measured 35% power loss at 
the Long Beach CA harbor waste-to-energy powerplant PV systems. That location 
and most LA county freeways experience particulate pollution that not only 
reduces PV production but causes permanent respiratory damage to children and 
shorten the lives of elderly people, sort of like the canary in the mine.

Joel Davidson
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kelly Keilwitz, Whidbey Sun & Wind 
  To: RE-wrenches 
  Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 7:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Real world PV production


  Thanks, Don,
  Performance predictions such as from PV Watts VASTLY underestimate PV 
production in our area. For example, PV Watts estimates 940 kWh/kW for a 4:12 
pitch at 180˚, whereas such systems are actually producing up to 1300 kWh/kW 
(as measured by a renenue-grade production meter). We have to set the derating 
factor to nearly 100% in order for the predictions to match.


  I assume that is partly due to coarse irradiance data (not accounting for 
higher irradiance for our location in the rain shadow of the Olympic 
Mountains), but also due to our clear, cool, windy summers, good natural 
washing, and (perhaps) dispersed distribution of irradiance.


  I want to know if the opposite is true: Do performance predictions 
OVERESTIMATE PV production in areas with historically high irradiance, but 
significant soiling and temperature issues.


  Thanks,
  -Kelly


  Kelly Keilwitz, P.E.
  Whidbey Sun & Wind
  Renewable Energy Systems
  ke...@whidbeysunwind.com
  360-678-7131


  On Jun 9, 2010, at 8:59 AM, i2p wrote:




    On Jun 9, 2010, at 8:22:12 AM, "Kelly Keilwitz, Whidbey Sun & Wind" 
<ke...@whidbeysunwind.com> wrote:


      Thanks, Joel
      How about PV systems away from the coast, in a hotter, dustier 
      location, like Bakersfield, Fresno, Sacramento, Palm Springs, 
      etc........?


    In central CA we do a little better. I casually monitor several systems in 
this area and expect around 1500-1600 kwh/kw. per year.


    Don Loweburg






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