http://www.bb-battery.com/  

they should sell direct. I'd look at the MPL-90 battery, its a sealed deep 
cycle battery 12 v 90 aH. Make sure and ask for the flag terminal, the post 
terminals are too small for 2/0  cable.
We've used them on grid tie w/ battery backup, and off grid stuff that needed 
sealed batteries.
They have cycle life charts, so you can compare them to other batteries. I 
recall them having 350 to 400 cycles at 80% DOD, not up with a golf cart 
battery or L16, but really good for the small sealed battery realm. Definitely 
will outlast the Optima in deep cycling.

R. Walters
r...@solarray.com
Solar Engineer




On Jul 1, 2010, at 12:07 PM, Jeff Clearwater wrote:

> HI Ray,
> 
> Yes I meant to say Yellow Tops.  They are overpriced - indeed!  We've also 
> had limited success in EV projects.
> 
> Do you have a supplier for B&B?
> 
> Thanks for the tip!
> 
> Best,
> 
> Jeff C.
> 
> 
> 
>> See below:
>> 
>> R. Walters
>> r...@solarray.com
>> Solar Engineer
>> 
>> On Jul 1, 2010, at 7:09 AM, Jeff Clearwater wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>> 
>>> Well this one's for me!  Nice to do solar for oneself after installing for 
>>> others my whole life!
>>> 
>>> I'm putting together an small RV system in my Sprinter Van that will also 
>>> act as a small mobile power platform.  SUGGESTIONS?
>>> 
>>> I'm considering the following:   What would be better???
>>> 
>>> Batteries:  6 or 8 Optima Blue Tops (12 Volt System - possibly 24V) (space 
>>> is limited - it's a 144" Sprinter Van)  - Other sealed alternatives you 
>>> think are better?
>> 
>> Blue tops are a Marine type battery, not their best deep cycle battery, 
>> which is the yellow top. Personally I think the Optimas are  way over 
>> priced, and they just don't last that long. I've used them in some electric 
>> vehicle projects. I like B&B for sealed batteries.
>> Their spec sheet info is the best I've seen, and prices direct from the 
>> factory are excellent.
>> 
>>> 
>>> Modules:  2 Sanyo HIP-195BA19s (have already) & 1 undetermined 90-120 watt 
>>> module (all that will fit!)  (Anyone have an extra BP 790 or an AE-90HE, 
>>> AE-120HE??? or other 24" x 48" ish module?)
>>> 
>>> Charge Control:  OB FlexMax 60  or should I wait for the Midnight Classic?  
>>> (A Sunsaver MPPT will be used for the 100 watt module). (I'll also be 
>>> dumping extra power to hot water).  Or Apollo if I use the Apollo inverter 
>>> below.
>>> 
>>> Inverter:  I'd like to eventually have 120/240 so I could build from the 
>>> RV.  So question is:
>>> 
>>> A) One Outback 2012 now and then add another for 240 VAC later OR
>>> B) Apollo TSE2212  OR
>>> C) Magnum MS 4024 (in which case I'd have to go with a 24V pack and a 24>12 
>>> DC>DC for 12V loads)
>>> 
>>> Monitoring:  OB Mate (Flexnet?) or (Apollo ASNET if I go Apollo).
>>> 
>>> QUESTIONS?
>>> 
>>> 1)   Opinions of the Blue Top vs ???
>>> 
>>> 2)  Best RV inverter - Outback?  Apollo? Magnum? Experience?  Vibration?  
>>> Only the Outback offers neutral switching in the transfer switch. (Does the 
>>> Magnum?).  Weight is an issue as well as space.
>>> 
>>> 3)  Charge Control - Is the Classic Shipping?
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your time!
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Jeff C.
>>> 
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