Allan,

As a EV enthusiast, and RE Wrench, I've also thought of, and fielded questions 
about, direct PV charging an EV. 

- The first issue that usually causes me to not pursue this is getting the most 
power production from the PV array each day.  If the EV is not there, the PV 
array output is not being used.  But it sounds like your customer will have the 
array grid tied when the EV is not present, so PV output is maximized, and 
he/she wants to be able to switch to direct EV charging when the EV is present.

- So the next issue is having an array wired that could both power a grid tie 
inverter, and charge a 300 vDC EV battery pack.  If the grid tie inverter is a 
600v string inverter, and the battery pack charge controller is a high voltage 
string charge controller like the Xantrex 600v PV charge controller, then the 
array could be wired to satisfy both uses.

- The next issue is if the Xantrex 600v PV charge controller be set high enough 
to control charge to a 300v battery pack.  Maybe Xantrex could custom make one 
that could do this, and be adjusted for various battery types.

- If the charge controller can be found, then a manual transfer switch could be 
used to shift array output from the grid tie inverter to the car PV charge 
controller, and back, as desired.

How's that sound?  :)

Randy Brooks
Brooks Solar, Inc.
Solar Power for People
140 Columbia View
Chelan, WA  98816
509-682-9646
ra...@brookssolar.com
www.BrooksSolar.com

On Aug 23, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Allan Sindelar wrote:

> Wrenches,
> We have a customer who has built several EVs, and wants to eventually develop 
> a business around them here. A few years ago we installed a GT system on his 
> home. He has now moved and wants to install a system on his new home as well. 
> This time, he'd like to develop a means by which to charge his EV directly 
> from his array, avoiding the inefficiencies of inverting to the grid and then 
> running a grid-based charger. 
> 
> I know of no way to do this, but then, I'm a veggiehead (drive an old 
> Mercedes on waste fryer oil), not an EV aficionado. I suspect that there are 
> folks out there trying to do this, as it's a logical objective. Can anyone 
> suggest products, links, or websites for this customer to explore?
> 
> Here are his notes about this effort:
> ...this is essentially the idea. to use the EV as rolling battery backup to 
> dual-purpose the investment in battery. The second plus is avoiding loss from 
> two inversions dc-ac-dc, the third being relatively high-amp charge without 
> buying another charger! and dual purposing the inverter to avoid cost of 
> high-amp inverter only used for emergencies for a backup. 
> 
> The tech details of EV battery packs that are going to make this a challenge 
> is the high voltage. The DIY pack running DC are going to be 120, 144, 156vDC 
> nominal most commonly. Guys running AC motors and OEMs might run much 
> higher.... closer to 300v. 
> 
> The charge controller or voltage limit switch needs to be user settable and 
> fairly accurate (+/- 1 volt). The DIY people usually use a 'finish' voltage 
> of 3.65volts / cell being 'done'. So for a 120v nominal system I would want 
> to set the DC charge to come up to 139v and either shut down right then, or 
> if it COULD just hold at 139v until amps drop or a specified time, that would 
> be even better. 
> 
> I am planning to do a grid-tie system at my new house, and yes, the intent is 
> to 'stub-in' capability to both quick-charge the pack direct from the DC side 
> of PV if possible, AND use the car pack as night-time/emergency backup just 
> to show its possible.... 
> 
> My little car has 12kWhr on board, one I'm working on right now will have 
> 20kWhr onboard.
> Thank you in advance for any assistance.
> Allan
> -- 
> Allan Sindelar
> al...@positiveenergysolar.com
> NABCEP Certified Photovoltaic Installer
> NABCEP Certified Technical Sales Professional
> New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician
> Founder and Chief Technology Officer
> Positive Energy, Inc.
> 3209 Richards Lane (note new address)
> Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507
> 505 424-1112
> www.positiveenergysolar.com
> 
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