Chris
Yes some charge controllers regulate pretty slow. So if the battery goes away on them they can skyrocket in voltage on there battery side before they can catch themselves. This may only be for 2-3 seconds or so but that is all it takes to send an inverter up in smoke.

This is also the reason you here people complain of small AGM battery banks going over voltage from time to time. These same slower controllers will take that same 2-3 seconds to catch themselves if a big load is turned off.

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On 3/16/2013 10:28 AM, Chris Mason wrote:
I want to understand the issue if you don't mind. Are you saying that an MPPT charge controller has no voltage limits? I would have presumed a CC would know that there is no batteries attached. From your email, you want a device that will measure the CC output voltage, and shut it down if it exceeds a limit. For the 48V systems I normally install, that would be ...65V? It would be trivial to setup an Arduino with a voltage input to monitor the CC output voltage. The harder part would be to turn off the CC when there was excessive voltage. Unless the CC had an Aux input, you would need a contact rated for the DC Current. Other than, it's very simple to do.


On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Dan Fink <danbo...@gmail.com <mailto:danbo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    This has been happening all too frequently here. We live in a big area
    of off grid homes, dozens of systems.
    Lost a customers Trace 2624 this morning; One L-16 in older 24v bank
    opened internally. PV array/MPPT control zorched inverter as soon as
    the sun came up. First indication of problems last nite when customer
    hit microwave to warm up dinner and inverter went crazy. This morning
    the bad battery showed 3.2v (yes, I would expect 2 or 4 also) the rest
    the usual 6+v. Turned on PV array, bad battery immediately up to 11v
    (yes, 6v L16).

    Somebody needs to build a "battery condom" with big stacked diodes on
    a big heat sink or some such solution. A voltage brick wall for system
    charging inputs. MPPT PV controllers do NOT protect a inverter from
    input overvoltage if all or part of the battery bank disappears! And
    last year we saw a nice battery box fire and zorched inverters due to
    similar -- dual 48v L16 strings, one cell failed and opened, other
    string dumped everything into the bad one, smoke and flames. Parallel
    fusing would have stopped that......but not stopped the loss of dual
    stacked XW inverters from PV overvoltage.

    Or am I missing something here?

    Dan Fink,
    Executive Director;
    Otherpower
    Buckville Energy Consulting
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