I couldn't agree more, Chris!  Hellermanntyton put on a nice little seminar at 
Intersolar last year and gave out lots of samples.  I was positively impressed.

Blessings,
Kelly


On Feb 6, 2014, at 3:48 AM, Chris Mason wrote:

> In reference to William's comments on cable ties, which are very valid, 
> HellermannTyton makes a huge range of ties for every industry. They have a 
> catalogue of solar components which includes stainless ties and plastic 
> covered stainless ties. As an industry, we need to be purchasing the correct 
> products and not going to the local Home Depot and buying home owner junk.
> http://www.hellermanntyton.us/products_solar.aspx
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Kelly Larson <solarwre...@asis.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Andrew.  I have a stack of SolarPro waiting for the rain to hit.  
> Looks like we are getting some soon.  (Thank goodness)
> 
> Blessings,
> Kelly
> 
> 
> On Feb 4, 2014, at 11:02 PM, Andrew Truitt wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Kelly - Here are a couple of SolarPro articles that you might find helpful:
>> 
>> 
>> http://solarprofessional.com/articles/design-installation/ground-mounted-pv  
>> 
>> http://solarprofessional.com/articles/products-equipment/racking/ground-mount-pv-racking-systems/page/0/1
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For a brighter energy future,
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew Truitt 
>> 
>> Principal
>> Truitt Renewable Energy Consulting, LLC
>> 
>> (202) 486-7507
>> 
>> LinkedIn Profile
>> 
>> Company Website
>> 
>> NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional ID: 032407-66
>> 
>> Colorado Journeyman Electrician License No.: 600132
>> 
>> <image001.jpg>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "Don't get me wrong: I love nuclear energy! It's just that I prefer fusion 
>> to fission. And it just so happens that there's an enormous fusion reactor 
>> safely banked a few million miles from us. It delivers more than we could 
>> ever use in just about 8 minutes. And it's wireless!"
>> 
>> ~William McDonough
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Kelly Larson <solarwre...@asis.com> wrote:
>> Wow, William.  Thank you for all the details.  One size clearly doesn't fit 
>> all!  I like the page with all the different wire management options you've 
>> used.  Somebody tell me why we still don't have this taken care of WITH the 
>> racking...  Shesh.
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 4, 2014, at 8:47 PM, <will...@millersolar.com> 
>> <will...@millersolar.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Kelly:
>>>  
>>> Ground mount racking choice is determined on a case-by-case basis.  If the 
>>> ground is flat and area plentiful, we use ballasted on gravel (Dyno-Raxx).  
>>> If you need to seasonally adjust, we like the DPW MPM.  If the ground is 
>>> sloped other than gradually south, top of pole mounts may be your choice.  
>>> For flat ground, low tilt (grid-tied)  “fence post” arrays like the DPW LGM 
>>> work well.  For high wind areas, consider the DPW TTRGM on piers spanned by 
>>> strut.
>>>  
>>> Lest anyone think I am the cheering section for DPW, I suggest you avoid 
>>> the DPW P6 or P8 “Tilt Kit” assemblies.  The brackets are flimsy.  Also, 
>>> avoid DPW’s L-feet.  They are bent aluminum and come pre-stress cracked at 
>>> no extra cost.  For L-feet, use Unirac “Serrated L-feet.”
>>>  
>>> It is refreshing to hear someone ask about wire management upfront.  All 
>>> too often this is an afterthought.  In the industry vacuum we have been 
>>> developing wire management systems on an ongoing basis.  Below is a link 
>>> that depicts some of our ideas.
>>>  
>>> http://www.millersolar.com/public_html/MillerSolar/practices/PV_wiring/_PV_Wiring2.html
>>>  
>>> The Code now requires wire shielding on “readily accessible” PV which means 
>>> ground mount. Just managing the wire is not enough, you must shield it from 
>>> touch.   One option is to enclose the PV in chain link, which ramps up the 
>>> ugly factor (I don’t think three rail pasture fence or even barbed wire 
>>> complies). Once you fence the array you can dispense with shielding, but 
>>> you still don’t want the leads dangling in a year or two, so avoid any 
>>> flavor of plastic wire ties.  There have been studies proving they don’t 
>>> last (US Navy is one source).
>>>  
>>> We have looked at racking members with larger interior cross section (i.e. 
>>> Pro-Solar) with the intent of running AC and DC leads inside and we have 
>>> even mocked up a few, but fitting leads and the proprietary nuts into the 
>>> same channel has proven impractical.
>>>  
>>> Good luck.
>>>  
>>> William Miller
>>>  
>>> PS:  Speaking of racking systems, did anyone get the news that SnapNRack 
>>> and indeed the entire REC Residential juggernaut has been sold?  Read the 
>>> rest of this story
>>>  
>>> Wm
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>> On Feb 4, 2014, at 4:45 PM, Kelly Larson <solarwre...@asis.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Aaron.  How are you handling wire  management and connection to the 
>>> ground?
>>> 
>>> Blessings,
>>> Kelly
>>>  
>>> On Feb 4, 2014, at 2:41 PM, Aaron Mandelkorn wrote:
>>>  
>>> I like SnapNrack 200 Series as well as DPW Solar Multi Pole Mount.
>>>  
>>> On Feb 4, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Kelly Larson <solarwre...@asis.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>>  
>>> We are looking to install some 4KW ground mounted arrays.  What racking are 
>>> you using?  Best ground connection?  Wire management?  The shows have so 
>>> many choices, and I keep doing the same ol thing...
>>> 
>>> Blessings,
>>> Kelly
>>>  
>>> Kelly Larson
>>> Electrical Engineer
>>> NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installation Professional
>>> IREC Certified Master Trainer
>>> CA Electrical Contractor# 868189
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