Adding to James' post about Grundfos SQ pumps:

The 1/2 HP models (only) are available in 115V as well as 230V. The 5SQ05-180 pumps around 5-6 gpm at up to about 300' of TDH, or 200' plus pressurizing in a single-pump installation. This makes it an ideal replacement in certain situations where existing 24V DC pumps have failed or wells have dropped and inverted AC is available, but only 120V, such as Outback FX and old Trace SW. It's soft-start, so there's no surge and no flickering lights. 

I have used this solution several times successfully, and just installed one in place of a failed Lorentz running at 24V.

This pump can also safely be laid horizontally in a storage tank and used as a pressurizing pump. Both the 5SQ05-140 and the 5SQ05-180 will work in this application, controlled by a standard pressure switch. I will generally mount the pump in a sleeve (also offered by Grundfos), with spacers to keep the pump off of the tank bottom. This is a good approach for rainwater catchment, as the pump will tolerate some sediment, unlike some better surface pressurizing pumps.
Allan

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On 4/10/2015 11:52 AM, James Jefferson Jarvis wrote:
The SQ is not just a simple AC motor. It has the soft start and pretty much all of the same features as the SQE, besides the variable speed that makes the constant pressure work well.

http://www.grundfos.com/products/find-product/sq.html

I use SQ on my own two wells. Both run perfectly on Magnum MS4024PAE (single inverter). Both are around 300 ft deep with ~100' static water level. Use 3/4 HP in one and 1 HP in the other. No starting surges. Can't even tell it is running. Can run 12 AWG wire out and down the well and voltage drop won't cause them to run any slower.

-James Jarvis
APRS World, LLC
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On 4/10/2015 12:30 PM, Ray Walters wrote:
I think you've started a good rundown of the three pump lines, I believe
they all use the same basic multistage pump head.  The SQ line has just
a simple AC motor; no constant pressure, and the usual starting surge
associated with regular AC submersibles.

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CTO, Solarray, Inc
Nabcep Certified PV Installer,
Licensed Master Electrician
Solar Design Engineer
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On 4/10/2015 11:25 AM, Howie Michaelson wrote:
Thanks everyone for the feedback - as always the best source of hands on
info anywhere!

So as I understand it, the 2 basic choices are the SQ,SQE line or the
SQFlex line.
Advantages of the SQE are:
* cheaper
* Constant pressure
Advantages of the SQFlex are:
* More efficient (how much?)
* Can run on AC or DC

Both are soft start, and both can run without the controller.  No
controller looses the display readout and a couple other smaller bells
and
whistles, but otherwise no operational change.  I haven't be able to
determine the difference between the SQ & SQE lines.  Are there any
durability differences between the SQ, SQE, and SQF lines?

Howie

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