Enphase does allow an IQ Envoy and an older Envoy (Envoy-S or earlier) on the same site. We were initially conservative and didn't officially recommend it, but have removed that wording from our IQ Microinverter datasheet and from our trainings.
The new IQ Envoy won't talk to the M and S-series micros (and vice-versa), so you will need two Envoys, one of them being an IQ Envoy. Cordially, Nick Soleil Enphase Energy | Product Manager, Envoy and IQ Accessories (707) 763-4784 x7267 // office (707) 321-2937 // cell [Enphase_esig_logo6.jpg]<https://enphase.com/> Energy Evolved<http://enphase.com>™ Powering What’s Next™ | The Enphase Energy Management System<http://ow.ly/HbVS3> NABCEP Certified Solar PV Installer #03262011-300 California C10 Licensed Electrician #986315 Texas Master Electrician #284451 ________________________________ From: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> on behalf of Jason Szumlanski <ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 4:49 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] MIXING ENPHASE M-2XX / IQ6 MICROS & ENVOY / IQ-ENVOY ON SAME AC COMBINER LOAD CENTER Although Enphase recommends against it I believe (mixing generations at this time), in theory you need one ACCP, two Envoys (one of each type), and you can aggregate into a single portal system (just add the second Envoy to the activation). I think the mixing of systems is not recommended due to potential communication interference. >From what I understand they are launching an IQ Envoy that will handle both systems in the future, but they are not there yet. I'm actually sourcing some M250's at this moment to add to a M215 system for a client. I wanted to avoid the whole IQ issue and let someone else be the guinea pig, so let us know what results you have! :) We are about to have hundreds of homes with a mix of some with M series and some with IQ series in very close proximity. This should be interesting! But I don't expect any major issues home to home. The first IQ systems are not showing any issues yet. Jason Szumlanski On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Gary Willett <g...@icarussolarservices.com> wrote: > ESTEEMED WRENCHES: > I'm in the process of engineering a project to add 16 new Enphase IQ6 > micros to an existing 48 Enphase M215-IG system that has been > in-service about 2 years. > The original system has a NEMA-3R outdoor AC Combiner Panel (ACCP) with > each of the (3) M215 AC strings landing on a separate 2-pole 20A > circuit breaker. > The Enlighten Envoy is mounted in a NEMA-4 plastic enclosure below the > ACCP, and is powered by a 1-pole 15A breaker in the ACCP. > My intent is to land the new 16-IQ6 string on a new 20A breaker in the > ACCP, and to power its Envoy (if needed) also from the ACCP. > In studying Enphase documents: > > (A) IQ6 micros have to be monitored by an IQ-Envoy. > (B) Envoy uses a 1-pole "L1, "N", and "EGC" a dedicated NEMA-5R > receptacle branch circuit for power supply and its AC comms modem. > (C) IQ-Envoy uses "L1, "L2, and "N", for power supply and its AC > comms modem, and is wired directly to its dedicated 2-pole breaker. > > My questions: > > 1. Can I replace the existing Envoy with a new IQ-Envoy, and monitor > the all 64 micros (48 existing M215s; 16 new IQ6s) with the new > IQ-Envoy? > 2. If the answer to "1" is yes, that's what I would like to do. > 3. If the answer to "1" is no, can I still land the new IQ6 string > on the existing ACCP, or do I need to place another ACCP just for > the new IQ6 string and any future growth? > 4. If the answer to "1" is no, can the existing Envoy and the new > IQ-Envoy both be powered from the same ACCP? > 5. If both the existing Envoy and the new IQ-Envoy can co-exist at > the same customer site, will the Enlighten software monitoring > portal aggregate all 64 Enphase micros into a single unified > production view, or will two separate production views be required? > > Thanks for your help! > Gary Willett PE > Icarus Engineering / Solar Services LLC > Irving TX > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/2d50e8d87317466f2604245c61148c13af5cc414?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.re-wrenches.org%2Foptions.cgi%2Fre-wrenches-re-wrenches.org&userId=1613865&signature=161b5623c16b2865> > > List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches. > org/maillist.html > <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/b8a84a64125069221e3e48e116f5ad05801cc108?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fre-wrenches%40lists.re-wrenches.org%2Fmaillist.html&userId=1613865&signature=030d43d59a94d35b> > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm<http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm> > <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/86bec64039d1bb115d11bc42873dacff577a5ec4?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.re-wrenches.org%2Fetiquette.htm&userId=1613865&signature=f74c76c512dc25db> > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org<http://www.members.re-wrenches.org> > <https://mailtrack.io/trace/link/7b88e6ec3c56f7b53523ca6c284c14755dcb3bdf?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.members.re-wrenches.org&userId=1613865&signature=7f1e004f60256ca4> > > _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm<http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm> Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org<http://www.members.re-wrenches.org> _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
