Hi Wayne, Jerry, and Wrenches,

The statements made about IQ not being compatible with legacy Envoy-S systems 
is mostly true, but that does not apply to the microinverters listed on the 
Enphase store.  The M215 and M250 micro kits that are listed on the Enphase 
store include a communications adapter cable that changes the PLC signals from 
L-L to L-N.  There are also modifications to the inverter to allow it to talk 
at the same frequency (144kHz) as the Envoy-S.

The adapter cable also allows the microinverter to plug into the legacy Engage 
cables and talk to the legacy Envoy-S.  We sell 40 drop lengths of the portrait 
Engage cable (ET10-240) as well as Engage Terminators, Engage Seals, Engage 
wire clips, and Engage Accessory Kits (which include the Disconnect Tools)

These are legacy components are available at an online store here:
https://store.enphase.com/storefront/

Note: the M215 and M250 microinverters do not have the ability to perform 
advanced grid functions (AGF) functions.

These micros can be used for small expansion systems, but for larger expansions 
it makes sense to just install an IQ Envoy (second Envoy) at the site.  You can 
have two Envoys and put them on a single Enlighten "System".

Be thoughtful about how you configure the consumption CTs when you have two 
Envoys.  If you have two Envoys, the production from the two Production CTs 
(and  Consumption CTs) will be added in the cloud and will display correctly.  
You need to be careful though if the production from one system is on the load 
side of the other systems consumption CTs.  That production will throw off the 
consumption readings.  You can fix that by installing a second set of parallel 
connected consumption CTs backwards on the production circuit to subtract that 
production from the consumption CT readings



Cordially,

Nick Soleil

Enphase Energy Senior Product Manager

(707) 763-4784 x7267  // office

(707) 321-2937  // cell

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Tump
The new inverters communicate at a different frequency then the older units, 
you will need a new EMU to connect to the new inverters, as so many of the 
older units have failed it might be best to upgrade all the inverters at the 
same time if they are compatible with your older modules
Jerry


On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 9:14 AM Tump <t...@swnl.net<mailto:t...@swnl.net>> wrote:
Anyone have experience as to wether the Enphase Envoy w/ M215 & the new Enphase 
products are compatible? I have a client that is interest in adding additional 
modules & inverters and I don’t want issues regarding mapping & online info. 
Thanks in advance. T
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