The skybox under grid tie operation is all pass through, the inverter can be both AC and DC coupled but in back up mode it is limited Jerry
On Wed, May 6, 2020, 6:31 PM Dave Tedeyan <dtede...@taitem.com> wrote: > Is the 5kw limit and no surge capacity for the backed up AC loads only > when operating off grid? If you occasionally trip a breaker during the > relatively rare times when the grid is out (around here at least) it is not > such a big deal. But if you had to deal with that daily, you would have to > be way more conservative as to what loads are allowed to be backed up. > > Also, is there an inverter bypass built into the BOS enclosure, or do you > need to wire up a separate one in case of inverter failure. > > Cheers, > Dave > > *Dave Tedeyan, PE* > Senior Engineer | Taitem Engineering, PC > > 110 South Albany Street | Ithaca, NY 14850 > o. *607.277.1118 x121* f. 607.277.2119 > www.taitem.com > > Solar • Sustainability • Energy • Design > Certified B-Corporation since 2013 > > > On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 8:24 PM <d...@energysolarnow.com> wrote: > >> I'm finding the SkyBox to be reliable hardware, if you don't need big >> surge capability. >> But the software is still in flux. I have had to reject software updates >> that froze the system, going back to the previous version to bring it back >> again. >> >> One issue is that AC coupling does not work with multiple Skyboxen, >> unlike with older Radians. >> Another huge problem that seems to be software related is that dual >> SkyBoxen with different sized solar arrays discharge their battery banks at >> different rates. This becomes an issue in multiple day grid outages like we >> now expect in north CA fire season. You'd think the SkyBox master-slave >> relationship would allow them to coordinate, but this causes the one with a >> smaller solar array to run down it's battery sooner, faulting the system >> causing a complete shutdown of both SkyBoxen. >> OutBack says they are not fixing this, so I'm looking at SolArk for >> systems larger than 5 kW. >> >> Don Barch >> Energy Solar >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: RE-wrenches Digest, Vol 13, Issue 124 >> From: re-wrenches-requ...@lists.re-wrenches.org >> Date: Mon, May 04, 2020 2:40 pm >> To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> Send RE-wrenches mailing list submissions to >> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/listinfo.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> re-wrenches-requ...@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> re-wrenches-ow...@lists.re-wrenches.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of RE-wrenches digest..." >> >> >> When responding to posts within the Digest, be sure to restore the >> Subject: line to the original, and please edit out any extraneous lines >> from the quoted message. >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Skybox (Dave Tedeyan) >> 2. Re: Skybox (Jerry Shafer) >> 3. Re: Skybox (jay) >> 4. Re: Skybox (penobscotso...@midmaine.com) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 21:32:38 -0400 >> From: Dave Tedeyan <dtede...@taitem.com> >> To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> >> Subject: [RE-wrenches] Skybox >> Message-ID: >> <ca+cq0butzbbg84gavcjoyq6ahpgz6ctwy_i_eczepubrfe7...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hi All, >> >> Does anyone have experience using Outback's Skybox inverter? I have >> someone >> interested and am curious to hear if people have had luck with them and if >> they are reliable. >> >> Also, I've been seeing promo material for Fronius' Gen 24 Plus inverter, >> which looks like it fills the same niche. Are those even available for >> purchase yet? If so, does anyone have experience with these? >> >> Cheers, >> Dave >> >> *Dave Tedeyan, PE* >> Senior Engineer | Taitem Engineering, PC >> >> 110 South Albany Street | Ithaca, NY 14850 >> o. *607.277.1118 x121* f. 607.277.2119 >> www.taitem.com >> >> Solar ? Sustainability ? Energy ? Design >> Certified B-Corporation since 2013 >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org/attachments/20200503/bd47522b/attachment-0001.html> >> ; >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 18:46:09 -0700 >> From: Jerry Shafer <jerrysgarag...@gmail.com> >> To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> >> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Skybox >> Message-ID: >> <camufgmwachaodr+puaxlrude8igsxd7mkpc+l-hnopqwbwx...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Dave >> I have used the radian and started using the skybox, it works well and is >> as simple as it gets to install. My personal experience with fronius is >> not >> good with there grid tie units. Outback has been around in the off grid >> environment and is my go to, but hey that's just me >> Jerry >> >> On Sun, May 3, 2020, 6:32 PM Dave Tedeyan <dtede...@taitem.com> wrote: >> >> > Hi All, >> > >> > Does anyone have experience using Outback's Skybox inverter? I have >> > someone interested and am curious to hear if people have had luck with >> them >> > and if they are reliable. >> > >> > Also, I've been seeing promo material for Fronius' Gen 24 Plus inverter, >> > which looks like it fills the same niche. Are those even available for >> > purchase yet? If so, does anyone have experience with these? >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Dave >> > >> > *Dave Tedeyan, PE* >> > Senior Engineer | Taitem Engineering, PC >> > >> > 110 South Albany Street | Ithaca, NY 14850 >> > o. *607.277.1118 x121* f. 607.277.2119 >> > www.taitem.com >> > >> > Solar ? Sustainability ? Energy ? 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I have >> someone interested and am curious to hear if people have had luck with them >> and if they are reliable. >> > >> > Also, I've been seeing promo material for Fronius' Gen 24 Plus >> inverter, which looks like it fills the same niche. Are those even >> available for purchase yet? If so, does anyone have experience with these? >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Dave >> > >> > Dave Tedeyan, PE >> > Senior Engineer | Taitem Engineering, PC >> > >> > 110 South Albany Street | Ithaca, NY 14850 >> > o. 607.277.1118 x121 f. 607.277.2119 >> > www.taitem.com <http://www.taitem.com/> >> > >> > Solar ? Sustainability ? Energy ? 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The 8kW has no battery >> disconnect, but the 12 kW has one, if you're using non-lithium based >> batteries. >> >> Daryl >> Penobscot Solar Design >> >> >> > HI Dave, >> > >> > The reason I???ve not used it, is that is has no surge. >> > >> > You might also look at the Sol Ark >> > >> > Jay >> > Peltz Power >> > >> >> On May 3, 2020, at 6:32 PM, Dave Tedeyan <dtede...@taitem.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> Does anyone have experience using Outback's Skybox inverter? I have >> >> someone interested and am curious to hear if people have had luck with >> >> them and if they are reliable. >> >> >> >> Also, I've been seeing promo material for Fronius' Gen 24 Plus >> inverter, >> >> which looks like it fills the same niche. Are those even available for >> >> purchase yet? If so, does anyone have experience with these? >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> Dave Tedeyan, PE >> >> Senior Engineer | Taitem Engineering, PC >> >> >> >> 110 South Albany Street | Ithaca, NY 14850 >> >> o. 607.277.1118 x121 f. 607.277.2119 >> >> www.taitem.com <http://www.taitem.com/> >> >> >> >> Solar ??? Sustainability ??? Energy ??? 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