Yes we use IQ combiners on all new projects. I will try to get my hands on this 
filter.




Many thanks for all responses.




Howard "Scot" Arey


owner, Solar CenTex


254 300 1228







On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 11:30 AM -0500, "Nick Soleil" 
<nsol...@enphaseenergy.com> wrote:

















Thanks Jason and Scott,





Jason is correct.  The IQ system uses line to line PLC, whereas the M-Series 
microinverter communications were line to neutral.  Most of the noisy loads 
(like magnetic ballasts, touch lamps, etc) are 120V line to neutral loads.  For 
that reason, we see very
 few communication issues with the IQ microinverters.





Also, the widespread adoption of combiner boxes has had a huge effect on 
improving communications. 

@scot.a...@solarcentex.com, can you confirm that this site is using a combiner 
box.  Keeping the microinverter and Envoy circuits separate from the other 
house loads is critical to ensuring good communications.  We also have a power 
line filter product
 (Q-LCF-064-1P) that can be installed between the combiner and the main panel 
in the rare instances there are poor comms.  That filter is very robust and has 
been designed to filter noise and signals in the 110kHz IQ microinverter 
communication frequency.












Cordially,






Nick Soleil



Enphase Energy
 Senior Product Manager




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Jason Szumlanski <ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com>

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True, but this is MUCH less of a problem with IQ compared to M-Series. 



I just installed 212 IQ micros on a building with 268 existing M-Series. The 
M-series required ferrite rings and the IQ worked flawlessly without any 
filtering (although it took about
 3 hours for all of the IQ micros to initially come alive initially). This is a 
grocery with a lot of noise / motor loads.



Jason






On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 6:46 PM Jerry Shafer <jerrysgarag...@gmail.com> wrote:



Wrenches
Noise in the AC circuits and Enphase is nothing new, when they adapted the new 
frequency this was in part to get away from the noise so it sounds like they 
still have a problem. I have seen a variety of new products effect the data 
stream.
Jerry




On Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 2:37 PM <scot.a...@solarcentex.com> wrote:







We have a 53 IQ7 microinverter system on new-build construction that reported 
and performed just great until the homeowner (a custom builder, and one I’m 
trying not to unimpress!) moved in Sept 1 at which point reporting went wonkers
 with inconsistent data, perceived underperformance that seemed to shift 
through the array. All the stuff that makes troubleshooting a nightmare.


 


Enphase tech support level 1 was great and immediately pointed to a noise issue 
and she had a level 2 tech check and confirm that.


 


She recommended I get it on wifi (was on cell comms until the owner moved in) 
so I could get near real time reporting, then to go through the pump circuits 
to see what is making the noise and when I identify it to use ferrite loops to
 reduce the noise on those circuits.


 


Relatively new to Enphase since they brought on IQ7 and this is first PLC comms 
issue I’ve had to date. IQ7+ has been rock-solid for us.


 


Anybody have any experience with this noise and interference and recommendation 
on ferrite installation?


 





 


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