Same here with the diesels & always have been. I have only had 3 diesels I have sold in 34 years of generator installations.
Better unit, longer life, less fuel usage, higher efficiency, potential start issues in cold weather, & a bad reputation with diesel engines in general, before the addition of DEF. Not that a diesel genny would have DEF as an option. Look at the Rolling Coal crowd! Dana Orzel - E - d...@solarwork.com - C - 208.721.7003 From: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> On Behalf Of Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 11:58 AM To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Cc: Michael Morningstar <mjmornings...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] WATER COOLED - 1800 RPM - 13KW GENERATORS INQUIRY Very Cool. We install on the average about two dozen <15kw generators annually. Mostly diesel and a few Honda propane. The diesels are a hard sell for some reason. Would love to see the return of the quality smaller Kohler/Onans. On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 9:11 AM Dana Orzel via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> > wrote: I heard back Friday from the generator manufacturers executive board meeting Friday morning there is their response: ________ Hi Dana, I spoke with the executives this morning and we’re very excited to hear what the demand is for this genset is. If it makes sense, we’re all in. ------------ Please let me know if your interest in a 13KW – 1800 RPM genset – water cooled is of interest for you & your off grid clients. I see this as a big opportunity for replacing the oversized gensets that we have been forced to use for a long time now. Dana Orzel - E - d...@solarwork.com <mailto:d...@solarwork.com> - C - 208.721.7003 From: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org <mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> > On Behalf Of Dana Orzel via RE-wrenches Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 12:02 PM To: 'RE-wrenches' <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> > Cc: Dana Orzel <d...@solarwork.com <mailto:d...@solarwork.com> > Subject: [RE-wrenches] WATER COOLED - 1800 RPM - 13KW GENERATORS INQUIRY Hey now all you off grid designer/installers, I just had a conversation with generator manufacturer (name withheld for the moment), about 8-13KW water cooled gensets with UL & LP gas powered. I explained that there is a long time hole in the market since Onan & Kohler dropped their gensets for prime power in this size range. If they made the investment to produce & UL certify a 13KW - 1800 RPM - water cooled – 2 wire start, prime power rated - 120/240vac genset, how many off grid systems are being installed with oversized gensets? If this was available how many units would each of you be interested in per year? I am not asking for a commitment just a market survey for this sized unit. If there was 20-30 companies selling 4-5+ each per year this might be a possibility. Let me know either off list or on list (if this is OK ? Michael let us know) & I hope there is a possibility here for more appropriately sized & available gensets for our off grid client systems. I will be passing along this research to the OE manufacturer. If you do not want your name passed along let me know for now. Dana Orzel Great Solar Works, Inc. C - 208.721.7003 <mailto:d...@solarwork.com> d...@solarwork.com Idaho Contractor - # 028765 Idaho PV # 028374 NABCEP # 051112-136 <http://www.greatsolarworks.com/> www.greatsolarworks.com "Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" P Please consider the environment before printing this email. _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org <mailto:RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. When one doesn't work, try the other: https://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/ http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List rules & etiquette: http://www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: http://www.members.re-wrenches.org -- Michael Morningstar Morningstar Electric PO Box 1494 Mount Shasta, CA 96067 530-921-0560 mjmornings...@gmail.com <mailto:mjmornings...@gmail.com> <https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4xkNeAOHZC3SDnZTmnhgML4JHyGwi0PdmG_TrSHASBRfwJtZqGi7vknpXAngaaiawfnr5xCF1Y>
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