The old "Pre-GTI" SWs could still sell... The reason that they temporarily lost their (Early 2000s) UL Rating, it was found that in the right conditiones they could "Leak" Current/Voltage when connected to the grid. Moving the Grid input to the Gen (AC2) input should prevent it from being able to sell.
Steve Higgins. On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 8:30 AM Jay via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > The older versions of the SW didnt have the GTI plug or need it. > > What I find curious is what was said about the lineman that they measured > current. > If the lines were off, no way that inverter could power it up or even the > transformer. > > I’d recommend checking current just to confirm what’s going on. > > Jay > > > > On Dec 19, 2022, at 9:18 AM, Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > > > Great Point, Todd... Todd is correct. Wire the Utility to the AC2 Input > (Generator), and it won't be able to sell at all. > > Steve Higgins. > > > > > On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 8:14 AM Todd Cory via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > >> If the grid is wired to AC2, then the inverter can charge off off that >> source but not sell to it. >> >> Todd >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Monday, December 19, 2022 7:50am, "Tump via RE-wrenches" < >> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> said: >> >> I have neve heard that but I would connect the utility to the AC1 input >> as the window is quite narrow then the grid. The GTI was a piss poor way >> for trace to regulate “sell” current would ramp up & back down all day >> long. NOT necessary. BUT then again that old duffer; SH probably has more >> brain cells left then I do. >> >> On Dec 19, 2022, at 10:27 AM, Chad Waits via RE-wrenches < >> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: >> I thought the SW needed a Grid Tie Interface (GTI) >> <https://www.altestore.com/store/media/pdfs/xantrex/Grid%20Tie%20Interface%20(GTI)%20Data%20Sheet.pdf> >> to keep current from leaking out to the grid even if you didn;t want to >> sell to them... >> Chad Waits >> President - Net Zero Solar >> 945 W. Silverlake, Tucson, AZ 85713 >> Cell: (520) 270-4873 >> >> On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 8:21 AM David Palumbo via RE-wrenches < >> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: >> >>> Wrenches, >>> >>> >>> >>> I have been retired from doing solar installs for 10 years now and I am >>> reaching out for help as to recommending a solution to an old >>> do-it-yourself customers question. >>> >>> His solar system that was formerly off-grid and is now using grid power >>> instead of a back up generator. >>> >>> He had/has no intention of doing a net-metered system. Just trying to >>> reduce dependance on a fossil fuel genset during our mostly sunless Vermont >>> winters. >>> >>> >>> >>> He says that he brought in power a few years ago to run their expanding >>> maple sugaring operation located next to their house. At that time they ran >>> a 115Vac circuit (grid power) over to their house and connected grid power >>> into AC Hot In terminal #! in their Trace SW 2512. This is correct as I see >>> terminal #2 is labeled for generator power. >>> >>> He has the Trace programmed for float mode not sell mode. >>> >>> >>> >>> Their local utility was working on the line nearby on the main road and >>> noticed a small amount of current flowing into the grid and figured out >>> where it was coming from. The utility did not immediately shut him down. >>> Just told him to correct the problem. He is asking me for advice. >>> >>> >>> >>> My first inclination is to separate the grid power completely from the >>> inverter power and to feed both power sources into a double pole double >>> throw transfer switch. 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