Michael, Sol Ark does not have an explicit or adjustable cool down setting, but it has fixed the problem of dropping the AGS signal under full load.
dus...@sol-ark.com can you confirm this? On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 5:41 PM Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches < re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > Chris, > Just so that I understand correctly, are you saying that new firmware > allows for generator cool down? > > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 2:33 PM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches < > re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: > >> I saw that setting. I didn't have a chance to look it up today, but I'm >> going back to the site tomorrow. I'm going to play with that and try to get >> rid of the ancillary equipment that is no longer necessary. Thanks for the >> tip. >> >> On Fri, Sep 15, 2023, 5:26 PM Chris Sparadeo <sparadeo.ch...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> In an off-grid scenario I would suggest utilizing the grid connect timer >>> as a Gen warm up. I typically set this qualification time to 30 or 60 >>> seconds. Sol Ark fixed the problem with dropping the 2 wire start under >>> full load, so if this is an issue for you, I would update the firmware. >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 4:56 PM Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches < >>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: >>> >>>> I just replaced two Sunny Islands and one Sunny Boy that I did not >>>> install with a single Sol-Ark 15k today. The generator installer (not me) >>>> had already installed a custom but simple time delay relay. I didn't get >>>> into the logic of it, but from what I understand the generator already had >>>> a cool-down period when remote start signal is lost, but no warm up delay. >>>> >>>> Major deficiency? I think that is actually pretty accurate and Sol-Ark >>>> should fix it, but it isn't too hard to take care of it another way. >>>> >>>> I wonder if this has something with the distinction of accepting >>>> generator input on the grid input as well. You would not want a grid delay >>>> if it were a utility. Still, they should be able to build in that logic I >>>> would think. >>>> >>>> Jason Szumlanski >>>> Principal Solar Designer | Florida Solar Design Group >>>> NABCEP Certified Solar Professional (PVIP) >>>> Florida State Certified Solar Contractor CVC56956 >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 8:28 AM Michael Morningstar via RE-wrenches < >>>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> We learned of this major deficiency after an eight unit install. No >>>>> cool down is disastrous to modern diesels. Our work around was installing >>>>> a >>>>> 400amp contactor and macromatic programmable relay. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 10:05 PM Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches < >>>>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jay, wrenches >>>>>> ASCO makes multiple ATS controls that can manage delays latching up >>>>>> and for cool down. Most of the gensets have are programmed cool down >>>>>> after >>>>>> relay opens so its not an issue. Generally on start up the genny connects >>>>>> as soon as it's voltage and freq are within range. >>>>>> fun times >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 2:26 PM jay via RE-wrenches < >>>>>> re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a client with a sol ark and it doesn’t have warm up or cool >>>>>>> down, kind of amazing companies are going backwards in their tech. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Has anyone come up with external fix for this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am guessing the internal relay on the sol ark switches closed when >>>>>>> it sees the correct volts/hz and opens the sol ark relay when it sends >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> off signal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If thats correct I can pretty easily use a delay relay on the off >>>>>>> cycle assuming the on signal has a time window to allow for this delay >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> sending power to the inverter. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The on delay I don’t see anyway unless I use a contactor with on >>>>>>> delay relay. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe there is a off the shelf generator transfer switch that has >>>>>>> this built in? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jay >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Change listserver email address & settings: >>>>>>> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are two list archives for searching. 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