I agree with Jason, the utility doesn't have a say in the matter. Pull
only the necessary permits with the local AHJ, and worry about utility
approval only if the AHJ requires it. I've worked in jurisdictions
from Hawaii to Puerto Rico, Oklahoma, Haiti, Morocco, Tansania, New
Mexico, Mexico, Arizona, Wyoming, California, Colorado, and Texas.
You pull the permit, don't ask too many questions, and only get the
utility or others involved when there's no way around them.
We have a lot of folks in 2025 over stepping their authority. Its our
job to hold the line, and get the job done safely.
Oh and finally, this concept that insurance companies are going to drop
coverage? Has that actually happened? Once again, don't over think it,
respond my friends to actual problems, not ones we dream up in our late
night fevers.
We are the installers of the solution, we are not the problem.
Ray Walters
Remote Solar
On 2/11/2025 7:03 PM, Jason Szumlanski via RE-wrenches wrote:
Zero sell is a bit of an ambiguous term, at least as far as inverter
manufacturers are concerned. For example, Enphase offers a "no export"
grid profile for it's microinverters, but it relies on consumption CTs
that are not completely accurate and the speed at which it can curtail
solar will inevitably allow some power to flow in reverse through the
meter. We have a municipal utility here that flips out if a watt of
reverse current is detected. They immediately fire off a nasty letter
to the owner threatening to disconnect their electric service if not
rectified immediately.
So be careful about what equipment you are installing and whether it
is truly capable of actual no export. If that is the case, it's behind
the meter, and here in Florida technically the utility would have no
leg to stand on in terms of restricting it. No netmetering agreement
would be required in my opinion.
Jason Szumlanski
Florida Solar Design Group
On Tue, Feb 11, 2025, 4:28 PM Jay via RE-wrenches
<[email protected]> wrote:
When doing a zero sell install. What are people’s experience with
needing utility approval?
It would seem as being behind the meter you don’t need it. But
just wondering as I’ve had a few people ask me especially from
California given the ridiculously high electricity costs.
Thanks in advance
Jay
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