Yes, I wasn't actually advocating y'all do anything with this idea. It just seemed like a good group of people to show the idea to, to get your reactions.
> Uh oh, comma for separating function parameters. That's been tried before in > a Lisp, but that means that ,-lifting is easily missed visually. I deliberately ignored the syntax for macros. This is an *utterly* blue-sky idea, so you could use anything for macros. If the goal is a more familiar syntax, perhaps macros should be defined with #define and $ for unquote. Or something. > Okay, but how do you determine which function to apply? Yes, this came up on the arc forum as well: I have somehow utterly ignored higher-order functions. Perhaps quote would be useful here somehow.. > Lisp has always let you write your own evaluator. That's no problem, just > code it up, and send your data to it. It'd be a crisis if you tried to > REPLACE the standard evaluator with something different, of course. But all > you have to do is send the data to your new evaluator directly (in many ways > it's actually easier to do this than replace the reader). I don't understand this. Is 'writing your own evaluator' the same as writing an interpreter atop any language? > But frankly, this is starting to sound like you want ML or Haskell. The > thing is, if you want ML or Haskell, there are already fine implementations > of them. Neither has lisp macros. "Everything is open to question -- but you'll have to pry macros out of my cold dead hands." -- me, http://github.com/akkartik/wart#readme I'm also not big on type systems. > Here I completely disagree with you. Being homoiconic is a *necessary* > property of a Lisp notation. If complex list structures get created without > *any* possibility of the developer knowing, it becomes impossible to control > the result. Yeah I need to think about this more deeply. It's funny. Ten years ago I didn't understand lisp and I didn't know I didn't understand lisp. Five years ago I thought I understood macros and how lisp was the only language to have them. This year I suddenly find I don't in fact understand these 'obvious' matters. Anyways, I'll stop hijacking this list now :) This is all utterly off-topic. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ _______________________________________________ Readable-discuss mailing list Readable-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/readable-discuss
