Hi Tom, On 1/21/07, Tom Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
OK, I should have been more specific. For my purposes, Valentina is more expensive. All of my solutions are based on a centralised server, infinite client premise. MySQL can provide this for 250 Euro. As far as I can tell Valentina costs US$1500 for the same scope of license. If I'm wrong, please tell me, but that is how I interpret the pricing as laid out at http://www.paradigmasoft.com/en/store/business/VSRV. Add to that the fact there are so many different variations of Valentina (5 Different 'Editions' each with 5 or more different options) and I find it all thoroughly confusing, though less so that the GPL. I'd rather just tack 250 Euro onto my prices (which they discount if you buy in blocks of ten or more, by the way) and use MySQL. It's just me though. Valentina wins hands down for single user, embedded server type stuff. If I ever found a need for an embedded server, I'd try Valentina over the built in RS option any day, but my work does not lean in that direction.
We are looking at ways to simplify licensing - the problem with that though is that we have customers who need a particular configuration that we offer. Valentina Embedded Server in its default state is royalty free. The Embedded Infinite Server, which is per deployment, is $400. Just based on this you might assume that we are more expensive. However while your subscription is good with us, your deployables are also upgraded/updated at the same time. There are some differences between Embedded Server and Office Server. For one, Embedded Server does not have built in support for all other scripting languages and doesnt automatically get various adapters. We are just updating offerings on that, and with VDN Pro, Embedded Server will also gain PHP and Ruby support - SSL and Bonjour are optional (but included with Enterprise). With Embedded Server, you are also supporting your customers. With an Office Server license, support falls on Paradigma since its an "off the shelf" solution. So lets say you give your customer an Infinite this year on a new subscription. Over the course of the next two years, we update Embedded Server. You can offer that update to your customer at no additional cost or you can charge them for it. REALbasic developers can get up and running quickly with our open source data-binding framework for REALbasic and VDN Platform - that lets you deploy that default Embedded Server royalty free. VDN Professional gains PHP, Ruby, C++ Extended ADK AND the new Valentina ODBC driver. The new ODBC driver is great for integration with other tools that can leverage it - Excel, Crystal Reports and the like. To either Platform or Professional, you can get the optional adapters for Bonjour and SSL (which you can deploy with any of your Valentina Embedded solutions, royalty free). These are included with VDN Enterprise. mySQL's approach is force developers to call and negotiate (which you pretty much have to do since their license leaves few other options), or pay a very steep price for just a serial code. They wont drop their price much lower than Valentina, and they give you even less once you work out exactly what you are getting. I guess this is a sharp business practice but it doesnt strike me as an open and honest way of working with customers. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software Valentina Developer Network Ultra-fast Royalty Free Embedded Server http://www.valentina-db.com _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives of this list here: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html>
