Flex!
Yeah that's a very nice product and easy to learn for a RB programmer!
It will compile to a Flash document and run on al platforms.
Last week we followed a Adobe course to create rich internet
applications and it's really really easy.
Man, I'm in love with that Flex (Ecclipse) editor and sometimes I was
dreaming about a RB compiler-plugin for the Ecclipse (opensource)
editor.
Download your trial at:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/
A year ago I've tried to built a webserver in RB but it's to slow to
have a lot of connections at the same time.
After several month I purchased Adobe Coldfusion, a good choice.
And now we are using Flex2 on the Mac.
After 1 day my colleage and I have written our first game in
ActionScript!
Regards,
Jaap Cammeraat
http://www.insist.nl
iSticky, iXiu, Go2
Op 3-feb-2007, om 1:59 heeft Guyren Howe het volgende geschreven:
On Feb 2, 2007, at 6:46 PM, Rob Laveaux wrote:
Next, Swordfish is great. I would love to see Swordfish. But
swordfish is almost entirely for writing the server side of a web
application. I'm after a way to write the client side.
Such tools already exist. Have a look at Adobe Flex. It is Flash
for application developers. The IDE is based on Eclipse and runs
on Mac and Windows. It contains a GUI builder, an advanced code
editor, debugger etc. It comes with many pre-built user interface
widgets to create a rich user interface. It uses two programming
languages: MXML and ActionScript. MXML is an XML based language,
which is mostly used for declarative things such as describing the
user interface, transitions, data binding etc. For more advanced
logic you use ActionScript (version 3.0) which is a very complete
programming language with features similar to Java.
FlexBuilder (the IDE) is a commercial product, but not that
expensive (about $500). The compiler and the framework are
available for free. The compiler is a command line tool.
The entire product goes way beyond OpenLaszlo and does not require
any special software on the server side. You can use any
programming language for the back end. Usually you communicate
with the back end using SOAP or HTTP/XML requests. But there is
also a binary format called AMF that can automatically serialize
objects from the client to the server and vice versa and call
remote methods. Also I think that Flex will have a much broader
community support, simply because Adobe is a big company with more
influence on the software industry.
Since the source files are plain text and since the compiler can
be called from the command line, you can use RB to create Flash
files without using any plugins. Such an approach would be much
more capable and stable than using Ming.
I had once written a 4D plugin for Ming, just as an experiment. I
did not continue the product as it was impossible for me to get it
stable enough for production use. It was full of memory leaks.
Fixing those would be a major undertaking. This was about 3 years
ago, at a time where the Ming project was almost abandoned. The
situation might have improved since then, I don't know. But still,
I think that using Flex would be a better idea.
Thanks for that, Rob.
I've not used Flex, but the tools for OpenLaszlo are actually
pretty good, and I have a preference for open source kits.
I can write software using OpenLaszlo, but if it needs to do some
version of what a REALbasic application is already doing, I need to
rewrite from scratch in OL (or Flex).
I'm looking for a way to do what Flex/OpenLaszlo do, without having
to rewrite from scratch. I'm convinced this would be a compelling
advantage for REALbasic, and for me in my development work.
I also think this fits in with REALbasic's existing compelling
advantage: that it is cross-platform. As I said previously in this
thread, I think there are better tools for writing desktop
applications on each of the target platforms, but there is no other
high-level way to write cross-platform software. This is what keeps
me using REALbasic, and adding flash app generation to the mix
would be a natural extension of this.
Regards,
Guyren G Howe
Relevant Logic LLC
guyren-at-relevantlogic.com ~ http://relevantlogic.com
REALbasic, PHP, Ruby/Rails, Python programming
PostgreSQL, MySQL database design and consulting
Technical writing and training
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