I think REAL is not very real about dealing with the needs of its users. By unilaterally canceling the lists without even looking for feedback first from the list users, they are slapping us all in the face.

Why do the lists work? For me, they have been a place to look for solutions to problems I cannot solve by myself. Many of the solutions I have gotten from this list mean bringing features and software to market more quickly. Sometimes they mean being able to develop certain software period. Without the lists, REAL may lose real customers. Apparantly they didn't consider that before deciding the forums were enough for us. I signed up for the forums months ago. Do I use them? Sometimes. Have they helped me find solutions to my RB problems? Rarely. The lists simply have been more effective and produced real value to me; the forums have produced little value for me.

It is unfortunate that many companies seem to listen less to the users as they grow bigger and expand their gamut of products and widen their scope. I have always hoped that REAL would not become one of these.

Regards,
Jeffrey Martin
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