Thanks for the good suggestions. At this point, I have NO experience
with linux so this is all a great mystery to me.

The app will not need to share data between users. It should be OK for
different users to have different preferences and generated data.

I am not sure what you mean be a "user application". Is this an app that
is accessible only to the owner of one home directory? Do I then assume
that a "core application" is available to all users?

Still trying to digest your info.

With much appreciation,

Jim Wagner

On Apr 19, 2007, at 4:25 PM, Fargo Holiday wrote:

> Howdy,
> This is all just from my general experience, but as I see it you have
> two approaches, which will vary by the overall design you have going.
>
> Approach 1- user only application. The application runs entirely from
> within each user's home directory, or rather a branch of the home
> directory. If you need to share files between different clients on the
> machine you could have it create a share folder with appropriate
> permissions, like 775 or 777, then the clients could discover each 
> other
> by iterating through the /home directories and making a list of clients
> they find, using the client directory as a flag. This would spare 
> anyone
> needing root access or administrator assistance in installing the
> application, but obviously has some drawbacks.
>
> Approach 2- You have a core installation with home directory 
> components.
> Simple applications could easily reside in /usr/bin or /usr/sbin. I'm
> never sure which is more appropriate, but it doesn't really matter that
> much. Since your application has some self generated files, which I
> assume wouldn't need to be replicated out to each user, you might go
> with a more packaged approach and install it into a directory within
> /usr/local. I've seen a number of packages that use
> /usr/local/share/<subdir> for instance, and place their global configs
> inside /usr/local/etc. This is nice because you don't clutter up /etc
> but still have a logical directory structure. From there you could do
> the same thing with the home directories as mentioned above, but maybe
> with a simpler sharing scheme. Naturally this would all require the use
> of root to setup, but not to run.
>
> I'm sure my ideas have some flaws, but I'm undercaffeinated so it's the
> best I can come up with at the moment. =)
>
> I don't know how familiar you are with linux, so some vague info is
> below. It might be helpful.
>
> In general, here's where you're likely to find executables under linux:
> /bin
> /sbin
> /usr/bin
> /usr/sbin
> /usr/local/share/<application dir>
>
> Non-global configuration files, such as user preferences, are typically
> kept in the user's home directory, or a sub-directory thereof. It's
> pretty common to use a '.' so that default directory listings don't
> display the file/directory, helping to avoid a user accidentally
> trashing a config file they want.
>
> A handy shortcut for the home directory of the current user is '~/' .
> This makes it easy for your script or application to ignore the actual
> username involved.
>
> Your application, unless run as a daemon under its own user account 
> with
> some sort of user agent for the client, will share the write 
> permissions
> of the uid that spawned it. This could pose some challenges for
> permissions to common areas and should be kept in mind while generating
> any setup routines you have. Obviously you can use 777 to make 
> something
> totally accessible, but this may not always be desirable. You could 
> have
> a group be generated and use that group to more securely handle
> permissions, but then each user, that uses the app, will need to be
> administratively added to that group. A lot of systems no longer add
> user accounts to users anymore, so that easy out isn't reliable.
> Normally a user is just assigned to their own unique group.
>
> Thanks,
> Fargo
>
> Jim Wagner wrote:
>> Greetings -
>>
>> I need to find an appropriate location for application files under
>> Linux.
>>
>> These files will include ones generated by the application as it
>> functions and user-supplied script files. The application needs to
>> write these files only with standard user permissions. The user also
>> needs ready access to the files. There does not appear to be a blessed
>> Documents folder under Linux so what are some of the expected
>> locations?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jim Wagner
>>
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