No rush on my end. It was something I started working on, hit a roadblock, and 
shelved for a later date. If you are also thinking about systems like OpenID, 
the login protocol will need to be re-imagined slightly. Maybe the best idea 
would be writing a spec for a login protocol that accommodates systems like 
LDAP, OpenID, etc.

To continue this thread though, any time you login to a website your browser is 
sending your password "in plaintext" inside an SSL stream. It's not a known 
insecure method, it's the way the web works. Just make sure to check your 
certificates (which the client does not do now).

John

From: realxtend@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jani 
Pirkola
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:27 AM
To: realxtend@googlegroups.com
Subject: [REX] Re: AD/AM for enterprise authentication?

John,

how long you can wait for us to figure out how/what to do?
Even if using SSL and plaintext password on top of that isn't the best 
solution, it is a good option, right? How much work that would cause on our 
end? I really would love to see the AD/AM implemented and if John is doing it 
... we should give support.
If we go that way now, can we change it later to be smarter?

Best,
Jani
2008/9/25 Matti Kuonanoja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>

Sending password as plain text might be possible if the connection is
encrypted exp. with SSL. But as Mikko said it isn't best practice.

I don't have a solution to this right now. We must research this
matter more to get authentication scheme where we support existing
methods like openID, AD etc.



On 25 syys, 00:14, "Jani Pirkola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> 
wrote:
> MattiK,
>
> can you figure out how to solve this one? We need to do it anyway so why not
> do it as soon as possible to help John to help us.
>
> Best regards,
> Jani
>
> 2008/9/25 Hurliman, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>
>
>
> >  I started work on a simulator LDAP authentication module (it is
> > surprisingly simple using the .NET/Mono libraries), but ran into an issue.
> > The client currently sends MD5 hashes of passwords instead of the plaintext
> > password, and you must feed the plaintext password to the .NET library to do
> > a proper bind. Even if a different LDAP library was used (or a new one
> > written) it would still require a client modification to get the passwords
> > in a different format. Worse still, there are several different
> > authentication mechanisms depending on how your AD/OpenLDAP/etc admin has
> > configured the service. The client would need to do an exchange with the
> > login server to agree on a supported hashing format, or send the password in
> > plaintext. I'm not in any position to do client modifications so I put this
> > project on hold. If I'm missing something obvious or you discover a
> > workaround please let me know and I can resume working on this.
>
> > John
>
> > *From:* realxtend@googlegroups.com<mailto:realxtend@googlegroups.com> 
> > [mailto:realxtend@googlegroups.com<mailto:realxtend@googlegroups.com>] *On
> > Behalf Of *Jani Pirkola
> > *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:22 AM
> > *To:* realxtend@googlegroups.com<mailto:realxtend@googlegroups.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: AD/AM for enterprise authentication?
>
> > Peter,
>
> > thanks for bringing this up, it helps us to prioritize tasks when we know
> > which ones are actually wanted. We already had this on our list so that we
> > will hopefully enable AD for realXtend during this year.
> > G2 Proto, do you think you and your group could contribute some help to
> > this task?
>
> > Best regards,
> > Jani
>
> > 2008/9/18 Peter_Quirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>
> > Active Directory / Application Mode looks very appropriate for
> > leveraging enterprise SSO services from Active Directory while
> > maintaining the application-specific information about a user's avatar
> > identity. Pluggable authentication systems like this will greatly
> > simplify realXtend's adoption for enterprise use. Information on AD/AM
> > is available at
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/adam.mspx.- 
> >Piilota siteerattu teksti -
>
> - Näytä siteerattu teksti -




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