On Jul 25, 1:55 pm, Toni Alatalo <t...@playsign.net> wrote:
> On Jul 25, 2011, at 9:05 AM, ilikia wrote:
>
> > Yep, the 1.08 works. Too bad they're going to terminate it. For 2.0,
> > most of the scenes have to rewritten. Even a few simple scenes I have
>
> Terminating sounds a bit harsh, as it's not going anywhere and you can keep
> using it happily for now .. it is the latest official release for normal
> usage :)
Good to hear.
> 2.0 is largely a cleanup with some backwards incompatible changes, but
> nothing huge, transition should be simple enough.
Yes, nothing overwhelming, but a lot of details everywhere.
> > for 1.*, without Javascript, just a plane and some objects, don't work
> > in 2.0. Cannot load the assets. Hope it's just bugs in the preview
> > version that cause this. Or then they changed even the way the assets
> > are loaded, and the location they are loaded from. Haven't had time to
>
> I guess this is an incompatibility with the TXML files between versions.
> There is no backwards compatibility support in the loading code in 2.0, so
> that's not surprising. One option is that we could make a 1to2 script to
> convert files -- I could do that when get to port the Chesapeake Bay demo and
> perhaps some other scenes (possibly in mid August or so). That would be
> similar to how Python.org provides a 2to3 script to convert .py files between
> the simple backwards incompatible change in py 3.0. Probably much simpler
> than the taiga2tundra converter I wrote earlier.
Sounds great. I had these kinds of problems:
Error: AssetAPI::RequestAsset: Failed to find a provider for asset
"local:m_conc
rete.material", type: "OgreMaterial"
Warning: WARNING: local$1$2$2ottok.mesh is an older format
([MeshSerializer_v1.4
0]); you should upgrade it as soon as possible using the
OgreMeshUpgrade tool.
Critical: OGRE EXCEPTION(5:ItemIdentityException): Cannot locate an
appropriate
2D texture coordinate set for all the vertex data in this mesh to
create tangent
s from. in Mesh::suggestTangentVectorBuildParams at .\src
\OgreMesh.cpp (line 14
31)
What it causes is that nothing looks like it should.
And using the OgreMeshUpgrade tool had no effect. Ran it with all the
meshes in that scene, the warning won't go away. Also, the camera
showed the scene from above, not from the side as it does in 1.*.
Tried to add a line like this after line 30 into freelookcamera.js
'transform.rot = camera.AdjustedRotation(0,90,0);', with all kinds of
angle variations, but it did not help. Also this:
Assumption "this->IsOrthogonal()" failed! in file .\Math\float3x4.cpp,
line 1155
!
Assumption "this->IsOrthogonal()" failed! in file .\Math\float3x4.cpp,
line 1167
!
and so on, line after line... and this warning
31)
Warning: D3D9 : WARNING - disabling VSync in windowed mode can cause
timing issu
es at lower frame rates, turn VSync on if you observe this problem.
Well, a lot of things work now, too. CAVE works, and the py modules
that Jonne added are loaded. Thought I'd try and write a simple py
module next, that would attempt to do the same that my modules do in
1.*. It's hard to test when not even the simple scenes do not work.
Ahh yes, there is no PythonConsole either, although the new
PythonScriptModule was compiled, is there in plugins.xml and is
loaded, and menubar.js has this
if (framework.GetModuleByName("PythonScript"))
viewMenu.addAction("Python
Console").triggered.connect(OpenPythonConsole);
Python Console would be handy in testing.
> >> to combine and add how to do things like, add a terrain, creating a HUD or
> >> Qt control, adding objects to a scene. This will help everyone getting
> >> started with Tundra. Also the basics with Avatars and mesh importing would
> >> be great also
> > You have a point there. Most of those things are explained here and
> > there in different blogs, but it takes some searching, and also trial
> > and error.
>
> Yah I still think we need a clear manual with all the basics in one place.
>
> ~Toni
Well, anyway, you've done a huge job, and the new package is
definitely more logical and simpler and easier to configure and
compile than 1.*. The bugs will probably go away soon, and we'll be
over this transition period.
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> >> On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 1:51 PM, ilikia <t...@ee.oulu.fi> wrote:
> >>> To Bill about 1.08: these instructions worked for me. No errors, and
> >>> the executable actually works:
>
> >>>http://www.realxtend.org/doxygen/_build_on_windows.html
>
> >>> To both Bill and Jonne about 2.0:
>
> >>> I ran 'git pull' in the Tundra2 directory, and then ran the
> >>> 'win_update_deps_vs2008.bat' and after that ' win_cmake_vs2008.bat',
> >>> and lo and behold, Tundra2 compiled. And runs too, although none of
> >>> the scenes made for 1.' work. They either crash or load only partly.
> >>> This is of course because their Javascripts use the old methods...
>
> >>> So we really have to write all the scenes again from scratch?
>
> >>> Ah, and Bill: I even made 1-08 work perfectly in Arch Linux, using the
> >>> instructions that were here somewhere, but I've got the link
> >>> bookmarked only iin my work pc.:-(
>
> >>> On Jul 24, 8:37 pm, Jonne Nauha <jo...@adminotech.com> wrote:
> >>>>https://github.com/realXtend/naali/blob/tundra2/README.md
>
> >>>> Please read the updated readme. For VC2008 deps please us the provided
> >>> bat,
> >>>> as I have tried to automate the deps process so its easier to use for
> >>> you.
> >>>> (The zipped deps that Jukka gave works as well, but then you have to
> >>> fiddle
> >>>> around with TUNDRA_DEP_PATH when its really not neccesary if you are not
> >>>> using your own custom deps).
>
> >>>> VC2010 deps are not yet there for tundra2, so dont try to use it yet if
> >>> you
> >>>> are not ready to get your hand dirty and build some stuff your self. They
> >>>> are basically missing libtheora that is a new dependency in tundra2 plus
> >>> I
> >>>> havent pushed them to the new git dependency repo that I made for the git
> >>>> submodule stuff. Wait for when i update/create win_update_deps_vs2010.bat
> >>>> and win_cmake_vs2010.bat so they are automated for you :)
>
> >>>> Quick steps as said in the readme, but with bit more info:
>
> >>>> - Install CMake >= 2.8
> >>>> - git clone g...@github.com:realXtend/naali.git tundra2
> >>>> - cd tundra2
> >>>> - git checkout -b tundra2 origin/tundra2
> >>>> - open cmd prompt: "SET PATH=%PATH%;<path_to_git>/bin; (or go and add
> >>> it
> >>>> permanently to path so you dont have to do this all the time)
> >>>> - run win_update_deps_vs2008.bat (if you get errors, open the file and
> >>>> read the help there, you might have too old git or you might need to
> >>>> configure SLL certs for it!)
> >>>> - run win_cmake_vs2008.bat
> >>>> - open tundra.sln and build. You may edit CMakeBuildConfig.txt and run
> >>>> win_cmake_vs2008.bat again to make the changes stick.
>
> >>>> *Ilikia:* it seems it is not linking to the ogre dx9 rendering plugin (I
> >>>> guess its a bit hard to say from that). Could you try the automated deps
> >>>> that I said above and report back if you have the same problem. You dont
> >>>> have to do another checkout if you already have deps somewhere. Just run
> >>>> the deps update bat and remove your TUNDRA_DEP_PATH before running
> >>>> wind_cmake_vc2008.bat again, you can do this with comman prompt before
> >>>> running the bat (in the same prompt ofc) "SET TUNDRA_DEP_PATH=". Also
> >>> remove
> >>>> your CMakeCache.txt.
>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Jonne Nauha
> >>>> Adminotech developer
>
> >>>> On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Bill <gfxg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> Can someone please give me compile instructions for Tundra2.0 preview?
> >>> I've
> >>>>> tried everything I know of to get it to compile with VS2008 and VS2010.
> >>>>> Actually if I could find the instructions for compiling 1.08 that
> >>> would be
> >>>>> great.
>
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