Hi all, talking about non-profit: I'm the president of an Italian ONLUS association (non-profit organization which helps people less lucky than me). I don't gain money from my organization (on the contrary, I spend much money to maintain it!) and I think would be a great idea to make Rebol free (even powerful versions like command/view) for non-profit. Why?
1) Advertisement! I could create an entire Rebol site, making Rebol more and more popular. 2) If I could use Rebol for free, I could make many things on my site (more than I make now)... why? since now I have a free account (XOOM.IT) and I cannot create DB, CGI, etc... but with Rebol I could create full-featured client programs that manage data in the server. 3) Rebol company will make a very good action! Non-profit organizations like mine work to improve the life of other people, to improve the World were evrybody lives, etc... (many jobs can be done from non- profit organizations). Rebol will help us to act our plans. This could be a kind of charity. I think every company (with profit), every single person would give something to help the people who already make something to help (gratis!) other people, the nature, etc... bye! > Ryan: > > This is a great idea Sunanda. Not only is REBOL is free for non- commercial > > use > > and could use the exposure, but I could too. I think I will make a point > to > > help > > out some of the local non-profits. > > Don't let me discourage you, but there are licensing complications even with > non-profits. > > I started these applications as they are non-profits I support with IT needs > I could fulfil. Rebol was (still is) extremely attractive for its > multi-platform support -- a typical non-profit of any size has machines > stretching back to the stone age, as well as more recently donated hi- techery. > > The problem for me is fourfold: > > -- that Rebol licensing is unclear for non-profits. The licence only > distinguishes non-commercial from commercial. As far as I can tell, that's a > personal use / corporate use distinction. Where a non-profit who may have a > commercial wing (e.g. running thrift shops and the like) fits is not clear. > > -- I'd like to use View/Pro not just View as I don't want to deploy > applications with poor security, so I really need the encryption. There's a > cost there of USD49 or USD99 per seats. For some NPs that's okay -- I'd tell > em to stop moaning any pay up. But for poorer ones who need tens of seats, > the several thousand dollar mark (even at the lower price) is too high. I've > asked RT several times about cheaper licencing or site licensing for NPs, but > with no result. > > -- Similarly, USD350 is way to much for Command/Pro, with which some of the > applications would benefit. Again no sugegstion from RT that a lower price is > possible. > > -- Encap looked a possibility. But it needs a developer licence for each > platform supported, and a cost model assuming I'm selling the applications > rather than either donating them or passing them on at cost. > > RT are aware of the issues, but move slowly. Here's part of an earlier > exchange: > > Scott : (RT commercial manger) [talking about IOS, not standalone Rebol] For > those Non-Profits that want to host their own server, we are discussing plans > right now. Not quite sure what direction it will take, but I'll get back to > you for feed back as soon as I can. > > Sunanda: Thanks for the info. The sooner you have a pricing structure, the > quicker we could start haggling! > > Scott: Sounds fun! > > > That was 26-Jan-2002. No further word, > > Sunanda. > -- > To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the > subject, without the quotes. > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Alessandro Manotti Presidente dell'Associazione "RIUSA" Sito web: http://riusa.apritisesamo.net email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing-list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefono: 347.63.43.231 -- Prendi GRATIS l'email universale che... risparmia: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Il modo più semplice e conveniente per mandare bouquet e composizioni floreali in tutta Italia. Rapporto personalizzato con il Tuo fiorista, ad i prezzi più bassi del Web. La qualità è garantita! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=367&d=22-3 -- To unsubscribe from this list, please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" in the subject, without the quotes.