Hi,
Well, I think I understand now. I guess that many of you are
actually experiencing problems, while everything appears rosy to
me. After checking the web site vs. my inbox, I think that the
only message I haven't received is the very latest one, which
will probably arrive shortly.
I've been getting good results with the Google Groups thing
also.
Thanks to everyone who responded with such good explanations.
Bernie Schneider
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being
overwhelmed
by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you try
it, you will
be lonely often and sometimes frightened. But no price is too
high to pay
for the privilege of owning yourself.
-- Friedrich Nietzsche --
----- Original Message -----
From: "Premshree Pillai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 5:25 PM
Subject: [REBOL] Re: Why not forget about AltMe and Rebolist and
use RebolTalk instead???
>
> On Sun, 9 Jan 2005 17:18:46 -0500, Bernie Schneider
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I may have missed something in an earlier part of this
> > discussion, but I just don't understand why so many are down
on
> > mailing lists. How can something be a "thing of the past"
>
> Folks are testing out GooglGroups now. So those who like the
ml format
> can get mails/reply/post/etc like a normal ml; those who
prefer a web
> interface can do so thro' the website. The group's at
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Rebol
>
> > without there being a "thing of the present/future" to
replace
> > it, in terms of function, reliability and stability?
> >
> > I guess I need to be enlightened about what is lacking in
the
> > present ML that makes it so "yesterday". As far as I can
see,
> > this list, along with several others that I subscribe to,
works
> > quite well. I'm getting the posts quickly and reliably right
in
>
> How can you be sure you're getting _all_ the posts to your
inbox?
> There are times when I don't get the mails delivered to my
inbox even
> though they've made it to thye DB
> (http://mail.rebol.net/cgi-bin/mail-list.r).
>
> > my inbox, and I get to reply just as quickly and
conveniently.
> > I'm becoming well informed and I'm staying up to date on
Rebol,
> > thanks to this ML and the enthusiastic and knowledgeable
folks
> > who participate here. The only problem I've had so far was
when
> > I first enrolled in this ML, and that wasn't due to a
> > malfunction in the ML technology itself, but to a human
error of
> > omission that directed me to a defunct site for this list,
an
> > error that I believe has since been corrected.
> >
> > To me, it looks like a case of "If it ain't broke, don't fix
> > it", at least it doesn't seem to be as broke as some of the
> > alternative that I've seen discussed. What am I missing
here?
> > Why do I want or need something else?
> >
> > Bernie Schneider
> >
> > The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being
> > overwhelmed
> > by the tribe. To be your own man is a hard business. If you
try
> > it, you will
> > be lonely often and sometimes frightened. But no price is
too
> > high to pay
> > for the privilege of owning yourself.
> >
> > -- Friedrich Nietzsche --
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Premshree Pillai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:39 PM
> > Subject: [REBOL] Re: Why not forget about AltMe and Rebolist
and
> > use RebolTalk instead???
> >
> > >
> > > Hi, all,
> > >
> > > Mail lists _are_ a thing of the past, agreed -- but
somehow I
> > think
> > > it's much better than having a forum. My reasons follow:
> > >
> > > * Forums are good when you have a small group of people.
Sure,
> > the
> > > number of REBOL users may not be huge, but REBOL is new,
we
> > need to
> > > grow it by way of active discussions, marketing, etc.
> > > * The Rebol-talk forum has way too many discussion topics.
> > This is
> > > particularly bad for a person who is relatively new to
Rebol.
> > He might
> > > end up posting all his queries at the 'newbie' discussion,
> > when he
> > > probably could've posted it to a more focussed forum.
> > > * Another problem with having such web-based forums is
that
> > it's a
> > > major pain to keep track of all the posts in the forum
(they
> > don't
> > > have RSS/Atom feeds that one could subscribe to) -- on a
> > mailing list,
> > > I can see the subject, then decide whether I want to see
the
> > whole
> > > post, and stuff like that.
> > > * The forum -- Invision Power Board -- doesn't have
threaded
> > > discussion. Now, this is _bad_. It's a pain to quote
everytime
> > I want
> > > to post a reply.
> > >
> > > In conclusion I would say that forums are rather immature
as a
> > means
> > > of discussion for something like REBOL -- something that
needs
> > to
> > > grow, and has the potential to.
> > >
> > > Yes, there have been issues with the ml, but surely
> > *something* can be
> > > done about it?
> > >
> > > I am all for the mailing list.
> > >
> > > On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 10:27:51 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > This is a very good question, and I'm glad you ask it. I
> > have also been thinking a lot about it over the last year.
> > > >
> > > > First, in defense of AltME: it DID NOT crash. The Linux
> > hard disk crashed. AltME is an extremely stable and
trustworthy
> > product, even as a 1.0 product.
> > > >
> > > > AltME is great for PRIVATE discussions, but what we want
to
> > see (and what new users want to read) are PUBLIC
discussions.
> > > >
> > > > Please read my public statement about this topic on
> > http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/blog.r?view=0089
> > > >
> > > > Then, let's figure out a solution and make it happen!
Maybe
> > its REBOL Talk, maybe not. I don't know. This is a
community. We
> > need to decide this together.
> > > >
> > > > -Carl
> > > > --
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> > > > at rebol.com with unsubscribe as the subject.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Premshree Pillai
> > > http://www.livejournal.com/~premshree
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