On Thursday, 27-January-2005 at 0:00:21 you wrote,

>
>Rebolers all will appreciate this...
>
>http://subtextual.org/
>
>Subtext -  Uncovering the simplicity of programming
>
>Jonathan Edwards screencast presentation
>http://subtextual.org/demo1.html

"Text is a dead-end

"Programming is stuck in an evolutionary dead-end: the use of character strings 
to encode programs. Every other computer-mediated form of expression has 
evolved beyond text into sophisticated WYSIWYG interfaces to complex data 
structures. For example, no one still uses textual markup for word processing 
(except, notably, Computer Scientists with TeX). We need WYSIWYG programming."

I've stopped thinking that way - text is cool.  Consider Web Design.  Someone 
hits a problem using their sophisticated WYSIWYG behemoth of a program and asks 
you for help.  But you use a different behemoth of a program to design your 
websites - end of discussion.  If you were both working at the HTML level 
though, you'd not only be on the same wavelength but you could also look at 
their HTML as well - which is a pointless exercise with the sophisticated 
WYSIWYG behemoths.

-- Carl Read.
    


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