Question regarding this statement,
So where are the supporters stating that it shouldnt be the name?
How many supporters does this person have?
200 aboriginal supporters saying they wish for it to stay the same bares no
semblance to one man sayiong it shouldnt be there.
Who is the community 1 man or 200 people.
Your argument is not relative at all, and why should one man who doenst live
there have the right to tell teh community who do live there how they should
remember a famous aborigianl man in the region?
Regards, Lance.
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> Approximately 200 Aborigines signed the petition calling for the offensive
> name to be retained.
>
> The Aboriginal Community in Toowoomba numbers about 6000.
>
> The ABC's John Taylor is issueing a false report when he states that the
> "Toowoomba Aboriginal Community" has voted the name should stay.
>
> Laurie.
>
> Laurie and Desley Forde [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Trudy Bray wrote...................
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trudy Bray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: news-clip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Saturday, July 31, 1999 6:09 PM
> Subject: ABC Transcript: The E.S. "Nigger" Brown stand
>
>
> The E.S. "Nigger" Brown stand
>
> The World Today - Friday, July30, 199912:53
>
> COMPERE: Well, as a term of racial abuse, "nigger" is
> probably one of the worst. But is it acceptable when it's also
> a hero athlete's name, or at least part of his nick-name?
> That's the argument that's taking place in Queensland over
> the name of a grandstand at Toowoomba Athletic Oval. It's
> called the E.S. Nigger-Brown Stand. This has drawn
> outrage from many and a complaint to the Human Rights
> and Equal Opportunity Commission.
>
> However, in what many people think would be a surprising
> move, the Toowoomba Aboriginal Community has voted that
> the name should stay.
>
> John Taylor.
>
> JOHN TAYLOR: His real name was Edward Stanley Brown,
> and in Toowoomba he was admired for playing in the 1921
> Kangaroos rugby league side. He was better known by his
> nick-name, "Nigger", which apparently he got as a child
> because he had fair skin and blonde hair. And in the late
> 1960s, a grandstand at Toowoomba's Athletic Oval was
> named in his honour, the E.S. Nigger-Brown Stand.
>
> Last month a local Aboriginal activist, Steve Haigan,
> demanded it be changed, but the Toowoomba Sports
> Ground Trust said no way. But the issue hasn't died,
> especially since it's now been referred to the Human Rights
> and Equal Opportunity Commission. But yesterday the
> debate took a new twist, with a meeting of local Toowoomba
> Aboriginal people voting the tag "nigger" should stay.
>
> Wally McCarthy from the Aboriginal Services Centre says
> more than 120 local Aborigines have spoken.
>
> WALLY McCARTHY: I hope it's the end of it and I hope the
> name's still there. We've done a resolution which will be
> under the Commission, and also other petitions, and I hope
> they take it into consideration at the ... of the members of
> the Aboriginal community and the support that we've given
> to Mr Brown.
>
> JOHN TAYLOR: But not everyone in the Aboriginal
> community agrees with keeping the name. ATSIC
> Commissioner, Col Dillon, told the ABC's Francis Tapim the
> word "nigger" is in no way, shape or form acceptable.
>
> COL DILLON: I'm absolutely bewildered. I'm absolutely
> appalled to think that any of our people would be supportive
> of a stand being named in such derogatory terms. It's terms
> like that and similar terms that we have been fighting in this
> nation to eradicate.
>
> JOHN TAYLOR: It's a fight Wally McCarthy has participated
> in, but in this instance in Toowoomba the name should stay.
>
>
> The word "nigger" is extremely offensive when used in
> normal, everyday language in Australia. Why isn't it
> offensive when it's on a football stand at Toowoomba?
>
> WALLY McCARTHY: I mean, you look at it, I suppose, in a
> couple of contexts. We use "nigger" a lot. You know, we've
> got black people that we call "nigger". You know, you can
> look at it ... I mean, I've had fights over being called "nigger"
> in the early 70s here in Toowoomba. I mean, I'm 65 and I'll
> fight if somebody calls me "nigger." It all depends how it's
> said and, you know, as I said, they can say it, I suppose, in
> a couple of contexts. But this man's been given this name
> long before we were born and it's stuck with him, and it's on
> the stand, and I hope it stops there. It was here before I
> came, 30 years ago. I hope it can be there long after I'm
> gone.
>
> JOHN TAYLOR: The matter is now in the hands of the
> Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission. If it can't
> be conciliated, it will likely go to public hearings and could
> end with the Toowoomba Sports Ground Trust being forced
> to remove the name, regardless of local support.
>
> COMPERE: John Taylor reporting Queensland affairs for
> The World Today, and that's the programme for this Friday
> and this week, of course.
>
> c 1999 Australian Broadcasting Corporation
>
>
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