Sorry it has take me a while to respond to this, but those who know what I am up to, will understand. I cannot leave an attack on my friend Simon Hunt aka Pauline Pantsdown go unanswered KAREN: As for the presence of Pauline Pantsdown at your petition rally - that says way too much. If that's what it takes to make people sign a petition, then there is a much bigger problem here than you think. What it says it that the gay and lesbian community has innovative ways of letting people know what is going on. Advertising works, and doing it effectively works even better. Pauline wasn't arm twisting people to sign, she was merely letting people know that there was a petition that people could sign if they want to. And the response was continuous all day, even when she wasn't there. (a signature every 15 seconds!) In defense of Pauline Pantsdown: Simon Hunt aka Pauline Pantsdown has a long history of political actvism, and his work in opposing One Nation is something that should be praised. Even the Liberal winner of Blair stated publically (I have the quote from the SMH) that part of the reason that Hanson lost the seat was due to battling with Pantsdown Simon lived for a long time in Berlin, and made a study of the responses to the Nazi in 30's Berlin. His ideas of satire were developed through these studies. Simon places his work in historical context. Several Berlin satirists of the early 1930's wrote about the difficulties they had in satirising Hitler's views on race and nationalism, as his original statements were often factually inaccurate and always extremist. Satire and caricature require a logical/realist base from which to exaggerate. The solution of the Berlin satirists was often to take Hitler's use of language and style of argument and use it in other subject areas. "How can you satirise nonsensical statements such as " I'm not a racist, but a realist', and I'm not a racist, but a very proud Australian'? asks Pantsdown. Men in frocks have opinions too! Garry ------------------------------------------------------- RecOzNet2 has a page @ http://www.green.net.au/recoznet2 and is archived at http://www.mail-archive.com/ To unsubscribe from this list, mail [EMAIL PROTECTED], and in the body of the message, include the words: unsubscribe announce or click here mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Body=unsubscribe%20announce This posting is provided to the individual members of this group without permission from the copyright owner for purposes of criticism, comment, scholarship and research under the "fair use" provisions of the Federal copyright laws and it may not be distributed further without permission of the copyright owner, except for "fair use." RecOzNet2 is archived for members @ http://www.mail-archive.com/recoznet2%40paradigm4.com.au/