The full Peter Sartorius horror show By overwhelming popular demand (four people asked for this) here is the full can of garbage, the “Sartorius Horror Show, ” that aired on TV here in Germany the other day. Appreciate it by hammering him – I spent hours putting it together. See my Recoznet posting of 19 September. Bits in square brackets [like this] are my explanations The bits highlighted red like this are what I consider to be the major clangers. No doubt others will find equally bad or worse ones – it’s all in the eyes of the beholder. [Graphics] PRIME TIME Late Edition Interviewer:228 years ago European settlement of Australia began with the arrival of the First Fleet. For 60,000 years indigenous people, the Aborigines, had lived there. The aggressive taking possession of the continent cut the Aborigines off from their roots worst of all by the Europeans enforcing the assimilation of their children in the 20th century. Peter Sartorius, a senior journalist with the Sueddeutsche Zeitung, [a left-liberal leading German daily newspaper, read nationally, based in Munich] reports. [Graphics] ROBBED SOULS, BURNT LIFE About the fate of Australia’s indigenous people Question: What was the First Fleet? Sartorius: The First Fleet, that was the first small fleet that left England to take convicts to Australia. That was in 1772. Q: In reality the continent was settled by the Aborigines. What sort of people are these? They immigrated 40 to 60,000 years previously. S: 40 to 60,000 years, or even earlier, nobody quite knows exactly, and they came from Asia…. Q:….over a land bridge that still existed then…. S:…it probably has to be defined what a land bridge is. The absence of many mammals allows the conclusion that there was a water barrier somewhere. But I believe you didn’t have to be a mariner to overcome this barrier, so that one can speak of a land bridge in the broadest sense. But these Aborigines who came are not what we imagine Asians to be these days, but rather what we perceive as Africans, in their whole appearance, in the colour of their skin. Q: So, part of early humankind, probably also in the region of Kenya in Africa, where humans originally came into being, wandering through Asia, getting very far, and then via a few island groups probably settling in Australia, people of the kind who settled in the early Stone Age. Is that how one can say it, that these are inhabitants from that early time? [He was even more incoherent than here.] S: Yes, certainly so. Whether they developed the same cultures, as we in Europe, in the ?Ramanjou? [Could he mean those ancient caves in France, where Aborigines are said to have been able to decipher at first glance the meaning of wall hieroglyphics that had mystified western researchers until someone had the brilliant idea to ask Aborigines?] is certainly not known, but it was a relatively small group, a small Volk, if it even had the nature of a Volk, that settled in Australia, this gigantic landscape, even though it is a small continent, on this gigantic land mass. Q: It is inhospitable, in a certain way, a lot of desert…. S: It’s only really fit for life at the edges. Q: They settled everywhere, or wandered everywhere…. S: Human beings settle anywhere where there is something for them to survive on, including in the deserts. There’s water in the deserts, too, there are springs, there is something to eat… Q: Now you write [that suggests he’s had an article in the paper as such, which I haven’t seen or looked for] that these Aborigines had rituals to prevent themselves reproducing excessively, bgut to adapt their population, the mass of people who had to be fed, to the poverty of the land. Is that right? A strategy…? S: Yes, that was simply necessary for survival. I don’t know, nobody knows whether something like that is a conscious strategy….[interviewer kept butting in, not letting Sartorius finish a train of thought] Q: An evolutionary one, that is those are left, the tribes, the peoples, who have made an intelligent adaptation…. S: ….but all the fertility rites were directed at not increasing the population…. Q: ….just a few, selected, proficient specimens[German word used was “Exemplare”, examples, which might not be as clinically harsh as specimens] ….. Q: ….it was also in other places in the South Seas, it was like this, that they had rituals that every second or third child was killed, also with the purpose – although it was argued differently – but the underlying purpose was to keep the population small. Q: The Aborigines appear to have links between the generations reaching far back into the depths of time. S: Yes, they’ve created themselves a world of their own, which is linked with the concept of “Dreaming “ [English word used], with dreaming. They have their vision that this earth is one level and that in their dreams past and present flow together. And that is, of course, the connection to the ancestors that exists very strongly here. It was also interesting when the First Fleet arrived, the Aborigines went up to the sailors and probably also the convicts – they probably didn’t differentiate – with respect because they saw in these strange white figures the return of their ancestors… Q: …like with the earliest Indians in Mexico?… S: True, quite a similar phenomenon. [Graphic] AUSTRALIA Terra Nullius Australia was regarded as terra nullius, as a no-man’s land that belonged to nobody. The Aborigines who now encountered the whites with their clubs and spears and also boomerangs, were such a small number that the whites, the Britons then, I think quite honestly assumed this is an empty country. Q: Now a process starts that you have headlined “Robbed souls, burnt life.” That means that something or other in them is now destroyed in the form of this dispersal and the attempts to assimilate the young Aborigines. The young ones are taken away. S: Yes, and this in the 20th century. This is not a 19th century phenomenon, but one of the 20th century, when the colonies developed into a country…. Q:….English law no longer protects the indigenous people…. S: …certainly protects them less than it did originally right in the beginning, under the governors of the various colonies, and that was really catastrophic for the Aborigines because one was so fixated on the white culture that one said, we can’t afford it, either, to legitimise a second culture in the country…. Q: ….They’re supposed to adjust… S:…..they should assimilate, they’re just to be absorbed [German: aufgesogen, sucked up]…. Q:….education, clergy who give them Christian instruction and so on… S:….Not all children, but just a certain category of children, all the children who somewhere in their ancestry had some white blood and because of that were also slightly lighter-skinned, they were ruthlessly and mercilessly taken away from their parents and now brought up in mission schools or on police stations [Polizeistationen]and they did, indeed, in parts receive quite outstanding educations. Actually, for a very long time, the white society of Australia did not grasp what they perpetrated on the Aborigines, and it is to this day a huge controversial subject in Australia whether white society as such is accountable for what happened to the Aborigines. Prime Minister John Howard is representative of this conservative view that guilt…. Q:….that guilt is not inheritable…. S: ….that guilt is not inheritable, ‘we have nothing to do with it, we regret what happened to the Aborigines, but there’s nothing we can change about it anymore,’ so scrub it out. Q: Can one change anything, could one make good anything? S: It is, of course, speculation, and it’s not just speculation, it’s a process. Since the end of this White Policy [English used], this white policy, quite a bit has happened for the Aborigines, in fact very much has happened. For the first time they were given civic rights, that they simply hadn’t had, they had no civic rights atll. They had no contracts with the whites – like the Maoris on New Zealand, they had treaties with the whites, also the Indians in America had treaties, even though they were slipshod [liederliche] treaties, with the whites….. Q:…treaties can be broken, but it is a right….. S:…..it is a right. The Aborigines had nothing at all, they were not at all accepted as human beings. But successively from the 70s on they were given civic rights and then land again. I don’t believe that the central issue can now be that they are accorded further land rights. That will probably be possible in the individual case, but it is not the great question. The great question is, whether the white society accepts that it has perpetrated a crime against the Aborigines, who are entitled to the special public welfare services [Fürsorge, which also translates as “a mother’s loving care,” or generally “caretaking”] of the prospering white society. That is the one thing. The other is that Aborigines are given the awareness, that they are not themselves to blame for their desolate situation. That is what very many Aborigines have confirmed to me again and again: that is the most important thing. [Black and white photograph of Charles Perkins shown] Q: You describe a man here, a fighter for the Aborigines, Mr. Perkins. Could you describe him here? S: Charles Perkins is a very amazing man. He is a classical case. He belongs to this robbed generation. Although he wasn’t taken away from his parents like others were, his parents were taken to a police station[Polizeistation]. Polizeistation, police area one has to call it, it was in other words the police headquarters in a large inland district of Australia and he grew up there…. Q:…a reserve one could say…. S:.... a reserve. He was sent to a boarding school [Internat] there, grew up there, but at 14, because he was cut off from his roots, from his whole culture, he landed on the street. He was thrown out of the school and then for years scuffled around [rumgebalgt] with the police and then more and more became an activist for the concerns of the Aborigines, already at a very young age, but he would surely have ended up in the gutter if he hadn’t had enormous football talent….. Q:….that he had, and he went to England…. S: ….that he had, and he then played football and immigrant groups noticed him, and since he’s proper intelligent [ordentlich intelligent], through that he was able to catch up on his education, was able to study….. Q:….now he’s one of the representatives of the Aborigines… S: ….now he’s one of the Aborigines…. Q: ….but his father is not an Aborigine?…. S: Yes, he is…. Q: Really, from both sides?…. S: Yes, but somewhere he’s got white ancestors in him, too. The Aborigines who have no white ancestors….. [And here Sartorius is abruptly faded out, without finishing the sentence. Logo. Ads. Total disrespect for him, the topic and the viewers. 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