Excellent letter, Suze.

I think we will have to go back to the streets to get some just
outcomes ----marches for UN intervention---call for trade, sporting and
other UN sponsored boycotts----the ALP has thrown in the towel to these
lowlifes----time for someone other than Howard's people to have their say.

Laurie.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Suze Collett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Laurie Forde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:06 PM
Subject: RE: [recoznettwo] Re: The Australian: Woomera to be a no-go zone
for UN


> I would be thinking that other countries who are members to the UN should
be
> questioning their dealings with "this" Australian government. If this
> government can so matter-of-factly ignore the binding agreements we have
> with the UN to care for those who seek refuge in our country - then what
of
> other business affairs, contracts, and agreements?
>
> I can't wait until this slimey little mob are ousted from power - our
> country is being UNNECESSARILY dragged through the mud. UN member
countries
> should be looking at ways to place more pressure on the Howard government
to
> AT LEAST comply with UN requests to make inspections to ensure human
rights
> agreements are upheld.
>
> I've heard all manner of distressing reports about the environment that
> refugee children are meant to cope with. Children are caught up amongst
this
> political bullshit between the government and irrate, and frustrated
> refugees. These children are in a severe risk situation!
>
> Australian people should DEMAND the government allow the UN to come in and
> assess the situation, and make recommendations as they see necessary. If
> Howard and his ministers insist that they are doing the best they can with
> the situation - then why the hell deny a check on Human Rights at the
> detention centres?
>
> If they can so easily turn a blind eye to the needs of these refugees, and
> the children who are suffering in these detention camps - think to
> yourselves - what can they condone in dealing with our Aussie kids?
>
> As far as I can see the unemployment issues are worsening for the youth of
> this country, and I'm damn angry at the manner in which the Liberal
> government sits back with a smile on it's face while our kids are being
> ousted from employment at any whim or fancy of the employer. Many of our
> youth are suffering serious financial difficulties as there is no "steady"
> employment for them. They are on and off the dole, losing weeks, and weeks
> without money while the damn system manipulates them like SLAVES. Our
> traineeship schemes, and apprenticeship schemes are nothing more than
> glorified work-for-the-dole schemes in disguise - great to fiddle the
> unemployment figures! Our youth are being exploited, they are being
abused,
> paid a bloody pitance to work their guts out - and they are being sacked
for
> a multitude of friggin stupid reasons. The climate for them is
frightening -
> our youth have no hope for the future of things getting better, they are
> becoming hardened and bitter before they hit 21 - if they get that far
with
> the pressures upon them, many suicide. The Liberals have effectively
eroded
> the hard won rights for protection of our workers, they have no friggin
> respect for our workers in this country, and they are clearly unconcerned
> with the well being of our own Aussie youth - little wonder the manner in
> which they are treating these refugees as if they are a friggin
side-issue.
>
> I DEMAND THE UN COME AND INSPECT WHAT'S GOING ON AT WOOMERA! WHO CAN FORCE
> HOWARD TO COMPLY WITH WHAT ARE CLEAR GUIDLEINES IN OUR AGREEMENTS TO
> CO-OPERATE WITH OUR FELLOWS IN THE UNITED NATIONS? I HOPE INDONESIA
REFUSES
> TO SPEAK WITH HOWARD UNTIL HE COMPLIES WITH THE UN REQUESTS FULLY, AND I
> WOULD HOPE THAT OTHER GOVERNMENTS AROUND THE WORLD WITHDRAW TALKS WITH
> AUSTRALIA UNTIL THIS ISSUE IS PROPERLY INVESTIGATED. THE ELITE FAT CATS IN
> THIS COUNTRY HAVE HOBBLED THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE. WE NEED INTERVENTION
FROM
> OVERSEAS TO WAKE THIS GOVERNMENT UP TO THEIR ***RESPONSIBILITIES***.
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Laurie Forde [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2002 10:40 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [recoznettwo] Re: The Australian: Woomera to be a no-go zone
> > for UN
> >
> >
> > Yes, we are acting like every other tinpot, outlaw regime that
hypocrites
> > like Howard are so quick to damn.
> >
> > In fact, that is what we are ---a tinpot, outlaw regime.
> >
> > Laurie.
> > ------------------------
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Trudy Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "news-clip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:51 AM
> > Subject: The Australian: Woomera to be a no-go zone for UN
> >
> >
> > I guess this is an admittance that the govt has something to hide.
> > --- Trudy
> > ================================================
> >
> >  The Australian
> > Woomera to be a no-go zone for UN
> > By Rebecca DiGirolamo and Agencies
> > 06feb02
> >
> > A REQUEST by UN Human Rights Commissioner Mary Robinson to send
> > an envoy to
> > the Woomera Detention Centre may be denied by the federal
> > Government on the
> > grounds the visit would be a disruption and a duplication of similar
such
> > inspections.
> >
> > Mrs Robinson has sought permission for a special envoy to make a
> > "first-hand
> > appraisal" of the remote centre, 500km north of Adelaide.
> >
> > She wants former Indian chief justice Rajendra Bhagwati to inspect the
> > centre after receiving allegations of human rights violations
> > from the ACTU
> > and a host of non-government groups.
> >
> > Hundreds of Woomera detainees staged a 16-day hunger strike last month
and
> > to date, 59 have harmed themselves.
> >
> > Mrs Robinson made the demand during a meeting with Foreign
> > Affairs Minister
> > Alexander Downer in Geneva yesterday morning.
> >
> > "There are certainly human rights concerns. Very serious human rights
> > concerns that I would like to have fully clarified," Mrs Robinson
> > said after
> > the meeting.
> >
> > Mr Downer will discuss the request with John Howard, Immigration
Minister
> > Philip Ruddock and other ministers upon his return to Canberra later
this
> > week before any decision was made.
> >
> > Mr Ruddock said in Sydney yesterday that there were safety, privacy and
> > operational issues to be considered before the special envoy's visit was
> > approved or declined.
> >
> > "In relation to issues about access to detention centres our view
> > has always
> > been that detention centres ought to be as open as possible," Mr Ruddock
> > said. "There is also a question of how many times you are subjected to
> > scrutiny."
> >
> > A spokesman for Mr Ruddock later told The Australian one of the
> > concerns was
> > "that we are dealing with a multiplicity of UN bodies (visiting
detention
> > centres) and we have to look at the disruption that causes".
> >
> > "The United Nations High Commission for Refugees has (regularly)
> > visited . .
> > . all centres," he said. Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission
> > officers also visited Woomera during the hunger strike, as part of a
> > fact-finding mission for a children in detention inquiry.
> >
> > The spokesman said the special envoy was a "duplication" of previous UN
> > visits, stretching government resources already dealing with at least
one
> > official visit per centre each week.
> >
> > Justice for Asylum-seekers spokesman Marc Purcell said the Office
> > of the UN
> > Commissioner for Human Rights was the only body equipped to
> > investigate the
> > alleged violation of human rights in Australian detention centres.
> >
> > "In terms of moral clout, (the Government) would be very unwise to
reject
> > Mary Robinson's personal envoy," he said.
> >
> > Insiders at the Woomera centre yesterday claimed two Afghan detainees,
> > including an unattended minor, attempted to hang themselves in
> > the past four
> > days.
> >
> >  © The Australian
> > http://theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5942,3723328,00.html
> >
> >
> >
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