I like the idea of a get together.. nice!

On 4/27/07, Steven Gong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I think John has put his well enough for our core dev team. We contribute
our effort (most of the time is from our free time) because we feel our work
is interesting and valuable. We are all proud of that.

From my standpoint, I'd most like to see a GetTogether for our core dev
team so that some design ideas and some project outlooks could be discussed
face-to-face and more efficiently. So other than the funding for hosting
servers, a GetTogether is what could be donated.

Thanks for all you guys that are so considerate for the future of Red5
development.

On 4/28/07, John Grden < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yeah, we did have conversations about such topics, but there was one
> such time where we all met over ICQ to dicuss.  The total consensus was that
> none of us wanted to be paid for development time or time invested directly
> on Red5.  I basic feeling was, we do this because we're passionate about it
> and we love doing it because "we want to".  The community responding to Red5
> like they have motivates us in those dreaded long nights when we have to
> work the next day, but it's well worth it.  I'm not one of the coders, but
> from my stand point, I wouldn't want to be paid - that would ruin the cool
> factor of being involved.
>
> that being said, there are plans to create an entity to handle things
> like training and support for Red5 and to provide some sort of official
> place to partner with major companies putting their own time and resources
> into the project.  Having an entity available to pay for marketing soft
> costs and conferences/teaching/seminars etc is absolutely vital.
>
> I know that several of us have spent quite a bit of money personally to
> show up to the conferences and speak and I'm glad I get the chance to do
> something like that!
>
> We had also talked about wish lists for the core team as well as people
> being able to donate travel, hotel or food for the teams that go out and
> speak.  The people who aren't out speaking might benefit in other ways if
> you guys would like to show your appreciation.  Something like wish lists
> for items that they can't necessarily go out and buy very easily, but would
> be a drop in the bucket compared to the value someone might gain by using
> Red5.
>
> Thats a concept I haven't really run by everyone on the team yet, so, if
> it's something that people would *like* to do, I'll certainly bring it up
> and arrange it.
>
> John
>
>  On 4/27/07, Nathan P. Johansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Morning,
> >
> > My view of this conversation, while well intentioned, feels misguided.
> >
> > We have plenty of choices and opportunities to not only make money,
> > but a
> > variety of things and places to spend it.  There isn't a shortage of
> > that.
> >
> > However, this project represents the efforts of people doing something
> > because they really WANT to do it - not because they HAVE to do
> > it.  That
> > isn't something that we have the opportunity to appreciate, much less
> > enjoy participating in, very often.  It's unique, fresh, and visionary
> > -
> > in the sense that it is NOT something that anyone is compelled to or
> > expected to contribute to if they're not comfortable or able to do so.
> >
> >
> > In short, when the time comes that the project needs certain resources
> > to
> > continue, then I think they will be forthcoming - but let us not try
> > to
> > create solutions for problems that don't exist yet, and hopefully
> > won't.
> >
> > I'm extremely grateful for this whole Red5 experince - it's been very
> > educational and enlightening for me personally - it's quite exciting
> > working with these things, being creative, and doing something novel
> > with
> > lots of other like minded people.  A big THANK YOU to everyone!
> >
> > =)
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 27 Apr 2007, Lenny Sorey wrote:
> >
> > > Well,
> > >
> > > If no one else says anything, I will start it off.
> > >
> > > I am in for $50 and will volunteer to setup a separate server for
> > testing
> > > here
> > > for those folks who run Windows / Tomcat.
> > >
> > > I can keep the server updated with the latest from the Trunk for
> > testing if
> > > that will help.
> > >
> > > Also, if someone needs a place to test something where it needs
> > testing from
> > > many sources (users)
> > > I can also make arrangements for that as well.
> > >
> > >  Would be nice if those folks who runs other operating systems ( i.e
> > .
> > > different flavors
> > > of Linux) and of course you Mac folks, could do the same. We could
> > then
> > > document
> > > what we do on the RED5 Wiki for others to benefit.
> > >
> > > I really like the idea of us all jumping in and helping one another.
> > This is
> > > why I have really
> > > enjoyed this project. If we all help one another, this truly make
> > this open
> > > source project unique
> > > and will draw the attention of other talent people who hopefully
> > will want
> > > to help and share as well.
> > >
> > > As I have said in previous posts, this is truly an unselfish group
> > of folks
> > > that want to help one another.
> > >
> > > I know that my team and I will testing like crazy. Don't mind
> > helping
> > > others.
> > >
> > > In our other Projects, (we are mainly a Java house), we use
> > Hibernate,
> > > Tapestry, Hivemind, Spring with our developments.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Lenny
> > >
> > > On 4/26/07, Ruben Waitz < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What about a financial donation from the list to push Red5 even
> > harder?
> > > >
> > > > Let's say if 500 ppl volunteer to donate $50,-....That's $ 25000,-
> >
> > > > Maybe with that money download servers and "spare time" of the
> > developers
> > > > can be financed.
> > > >
> > > > Gr,
> > > > Ruben
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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