To deal with this problem, I wrote my own version of the web service which is 
just a wrapper for the COM object. I had problems with getting all of the 
necessary information from the web service as well. Of course the last time I 
checked this was at version 7.1.

Chad Killingsworth
Assistant Director of Web & New Media
Missouri State University


-----Original Message-----
From: reddot-cms-users@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:reddot-cms-us...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TonyGayter
Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 8:39 AM
To: RedDot CMS Users
Subject: Re: RQL Commands

Yeah, both the session and rql services just send back the 101
error :'(

All Im asking reddot to do is what it says on the tin... I think Im
probobly asking to much lol


On Dec 16, 2:34 pm, Kenley Capps <kenleyca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have you tried simply sending the equivalent RQL over the webservices? The
> RQL response sends back quite a bit of info.
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:24 AM, TonyGayter <tonygay...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thanks for the reply, This does seem to be the simplest solution (kind
> > of) however it assumes the ability to have a free admin license to log
> > in with. I cant guarantee the availability of multiple admin licenses
> > to be able to do this (each session takes up 1). For example, if a
> > client has purchased 2 admin licenses and one is locked to my user,
> > and another to the admin of the site. How would I be able to log my
> > user off and back on (or indeed just get the login id ans session id)?
> > Using this method I would be stuck.
>
> > In the manual it says if the user account is locked out it should send
> > the users details (login guid etc) in the response, which it does in
> > certain circumstances (I can see the response I want in the common
> > log). If this response was return correctly via web services there
> > would be no problem at all.
>
> > It seems the web services have just been thrown together with no
> > regards to what should actually be returned!! I cant believe this
> > fundamental function does not work correctly. Its driving me crazy.
>
> > On Dec 16, 2:05 pm, Kenley Capps <kenleyca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Ack! Terribly sorry for the double post! This google group has been
> > acting
> > > very strangely for me, and Thunderbird decided to go ahead and send my
> > email
> > > out instead of saving as a draft! :)On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 8:02 AM,
> > Kenley Capps <kenleyca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >  Finally! My messages are going through! OK.
>
> > > > First off, let me preface that I currently use the webservices (for
> > > > flexibility.) If you're using a page in SmartEdit or just a standalone
> > page
> > > > on the server, you can still make use of RQL to achieve the same thing.
>
> > > > LOGGING IN (WEBSERVICES)
> > > > The guid is passed back as the response from the webservice, if
> > successful.
> > > > I'll use a .NET example (assuming you've added the webservice to your
> > > > solution):
>
> > > >                 if (service == null)
> > > >                 {
> > > >                     service = new
> > > > YourCompany.RedDot.CMS.RQL.SessionService.SessionService();
> > > >                     service.Timeout = SERVICE_TIMEOUT;
> > > >                 }
>
> > > >                 guid = service.Login(username, password);
> > > >                 Console.WriteLine("Successful login with loginid {0}",
> > > > guid);
>
> > > > LOGGING IN (RQL)
> > > > The guid is passed back along with some information when you send the
> > > > proper request:
>
> > > > Login Request:
> > > >  <IODATA>
> > > >   <ADMINISTRATION action="*login*" name="*admin*"
> > password="*password*"/>
> > > > </IODATA>
>
> > > > Example response:
> > > > <IODATA>
> > > >   <LOGIN guid="*[!guid_login!]*" server="*MyServer*"
> > > >    serverguid="*[!guid_server!]*" userkey="*[!key_user!]*"
> > > >    usertoken="*[!key_token!]*"/>
> > > >   <USER guid="*[!guid_user!]*" name="*admin*" fullname="*Admin*"
> > id="*1*"
> > > >    flags1="*0*" flags2="*32768*" dialoglanguageid="*ENU*"
> > > >    dialogtextdirection="" languageid="*ENU*" showstarthelp="*0*"
> > lcid="*
> > > > 1031*"
> > > >    navigationtype="*0*" preferrededitor="*0*" invertdirectedit="*0*">
> > > >     <MODULES>
> > > >       <MODULE guid="*[!guid_module!]*" id="*cms*" name="*0*">
> > > >         <MODULES>
> > > >           <MODULE guid="*[!guid_module!]*" id="*smarttree*"
> > name="*13769*
> > > > "/>
> > > >           ...
> > > >         </MODULES>
> > > >       </MODULE>
> > > >       <MODULE guid="*[!guid_module!]*" id="*ccs*" name="*0*"
> > repository="*
> > > > xcms1*">
> > > >         <MODULES>
> > > >           <MODULE guid="*[!guid_module!]*" id="*dms*" name="*13774*"/>
> > > >           ...
> > > >         </MODULES>
> > > >       </MODULE>
> > > >       ...
> > > >     </MODULES>
> > > >     <LASTMODULES>
> > > >       <MODULE project="*[!guid_project!]*" projectname="*Project name*"
> > > >        id="*smarttree*" guid="*[!guid_module!]*" lastid="*smarttree*"
> > > >        lastguid="*[!guid_!]*" last="*0*"/>
> > > >       ...
> > > >     </LASTMODULES>
> > > >   </USER>
> > > > </IODATA>
> > > > You're looking specifically for the value of guid attribute from that
> > > > response.
>
> > > > OK. We've got our login guid. However, if our app ever crashes or
> > leaves a
> > > > session hanging, then we need to be able to log that stale session off!
> > > > Unfortunately the only way to accomplish this is to increase the number
> > of
> > > > allowed concurrent sessions to 2 or more for the "RQL" user, so it can
> > login
> > > > and logoff the other concurrent sessions. Otherwise, you'll just
> > receive an
> > > > error back (from the webservices it says RDE101 if I recall correctly.)
>
> > > > So in order to do this, we have to perform the following (after logging
> > > > in):
> > > > 1. Get a list of all online users
> > > > 2. Loop through and find the one that has the same username as you
> > > > 3. Log that session off
>
> > > > STEP 1: List all online users:
> > > > <IODATA loginguid="*[!guid_login!]*">
> > > >   <ADMINISTRATION>
> > > >     <USERS action="*connectlist*"/>
> > > >   </ADMINISTRATION>
> > > > </IODATA>
>
> > > > Example response:
> > > > <IODATA>
> > > >   <USERS>
> > > >     <USER  guid="*[!guid_user!]*" id="*1*" name="*name*"
> > > >      fullname="*First name Last name*" flags1="*0*" flags2="*0*"
> > > >      email="*n...@company.com*" maxlevel="*1*"
> > dialoglanguageid="*ENU*"
> > > >      loginguid="*[!guid_login!]*" logindate="*37551,3837384259*"/>
> > > >    moduleid="*servermanager*" intern="*0*"
> > > >      moduledescription="*Server Manager*" projectname="*Up-And-Away*"
> > > >      projectguid="*[!guid_project!]*"/>
> > > >     ...
> > > >   </USERS>
> > > > </IODATA>
>
> > > > Note that you can specify a specific userguid element on the request to
> > > > list all online users to retrieve only the concurrent sessions for that
> > > > user. However, since we don't necessarily have the guid of the current
> > user
> > > > (if we used the webservices), then we'll just list all online users and
> > look
> > > > for our specific ones.
>
> > > > STEP 2: Loop through all users in that result set, and find the one
> > that
> > > > matches your username
> > > > I use the following process (actual snippet from a .NET wrapper I've
> > worked
> > > > on):
>
> > > >                 // In the Session class
> > > >                 List<User> users = User.ListOnline();
> > > >                 foreach(User sessionUser in users)
> > > >                 {
> > > >                     if (sessionUser.Name == username)
> > > >                     {
> > > >                         if (sessionUser.LoginGuid == guid)
> > > >                         {
> > > >                             this.user = sessionUser;
> > > >                         }
> > > >                         else if (logoutConcurrentInstances)
> > > >                         {
> > > >                             Logout(sessionUser);
> > > >                         }
> > > >                     }
> > > >                 }
>
> > > > As you can see, if you find the user with your name and your loginguid,
> > > > that's you. Otherwise, if you have opted into logging out concurrent
> > > > instances, log that user out (since they have the same username, but
> > not the
> > > > same login guid)
>
> > > > Finally,
> > > > STEP 3: Logout user
> > > > This one is pretty basic.
>
> > > > LOGGING OUT (Webservices):
>
> > > > Following the snippet from logging in via webservices, logging out is
> > > > incredibly simple:
> > > > service.Logout(guid);
>
> > > > LOGGING OUT (RQL):
>
> > > > Request:
> > > > <IODATA loginguid="*[!guid_login!]*">
> > > >   <ADMINISTRATION>
> > > >     <LOGOUT guid="*[!guid_login!]*"/>
> > > >   </ADMINISTRATION>
> > > > </IODATA>
>
> > > > Response:
> > > > <IODATA>
> > > > </IODATA>
>
> > > > And you're done! I hope this was helpful.
>
> > > > On 12/16/09 2:50 AM, TonyGayter wrote:
>
> > > > Also th euser woul dprobobly be an admin, many of our clients only
> > > > have 2-3 admin logins, Im assuming each session woul duse up an admin
> > > > license which woul dcause uproar.
>
> > > > On Dec 16, 8:48 am, TonyGayter <tonygay...@googlemail.com> <
> > tonygay...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >  If you have some code for this action that would be great, Im banging
> > > > my head against a brick wall with reddot at the moment.
>
> > > > Increasing the number of allowed sessions isnt really the best way to
> > > > tackle the issue, for example, what happens if I write an admin tool
> > > > and the pc crashes out a few times (leaving the user logged in) it
> > > > could still hit the session limit.
>
> > > > On Dec 14, 4:41 pm, Kenley Capps <kenleyca...@gmail.com> <
> > kenleyca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > >  I've been having issues with replying to the google groups. If this
> > goes
> > > > through, I have the code to do it and will provide (I also created a
> > > > .NET wrapper mostly because I needed a lot more than RustyLogic's
> > provided.)
>
> > > >       On 12/14/09 10:35 AM, TonyGayter wrote:
>
> > > >       Hmmm, I had forgotton that, Surely they store it somewhere
> > though?
> > > > This is goin got drive me nuts.
>
> > > >       On Dec 14, 4:29 pm, "Killingsworth, Chad
> > A"<chadkillingswo...@missouristate.edu>
> > <chadkillingswo...@missouristate.edu>  wrote:
>
> > > >        Login GUIDS and Session GUIDs are stored in ASP Session
> > variables.
>
> > > >         Now for the fun part where you realize that since ASP.Net and
> > ASP do not share the same session objects - you have a tricky problem.
>
> > > >         Chad Killingsworth
> > > > Assistant Director of Web&  New Media
> > > > Missouri State University
>
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