Hi, We're running RedHat 4.2 with all updates, and have discovered that if a user "kill -9"'s his login process at the console, then that console tty, eg. tty1, is left in an ususeable state at the login screen. It appears the ICANON flag is left in a broken state. Effects of this on non-console tty's have not been investigated. It is upsetting a user could maliciously break all the console tty's like this. Luckily it is fixable with a simple tcsetattr() call root can run, but it is inconvenient and no doubt infuriating for people without the know how to do this. Maybe a solution would be to get mingetty to reset login lines a little more thoroughly. Another nasty bug while I'm at it, I accidentally logged in using my password as username today. Easily done. Imagine my horror when I eventually logged in properly to see a process from "ps x" looking like chris 3642 login -- <my password> Argh! A nasty buglet whereby the first thing typed in at the login prompt is retained as an arguement to "login" rather than the eventual successful login name appearing. Are either of these fixed in 5.0? I'm still at 4.2, I distrust 5.0 yet still :) Particularly on the alpha -- RHL5.0 alpha didn't compile simple c++ successfully. Chris -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.