Hmmmmmmmmm,

Well, I certainly don't have a problem upgrading the kernel.... the only
thing that's holding me back right now is that I've had quite a few people
tell me I'd probably have even more probems with a 2.1.x devel kernel....
and the last thing I need right now is more problems.

What are people's experiences with the latest 2.1.x kernels? Lots of
problems? Lots of fixes?

I used it awhile back when it was 2.1.6x, and it seemed just as stable as
the current 2.0.x kernel, but I have no idea how it's holding up now.

I guess it couldn't hurt to try it as long as I back up the old kernel...
at the very least I'll be back where I started with 2.0.34.....

Jeremy Domingue
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At 03:14 AM 6/22/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Jeremy Domingue wrote:
>> 
>> Okay, well, the whole reason I'm trying to lower the usage of cron (or
>> should I say, the processes it runs) is because I thought that the load on
>> the machine may have been what has been crashing it over the past couple of
>> months. I've been having a looooooooooooooong running problem of the server
>> crashing every 5 days or so, now I'm down to about every 1-2 days the dang
>> thing crashes. No matter what I do it will not stay up, and the problem
>> continues to get worse.
>
>If you want to test if the load is what crashes it, just start
>whatever program you can until you fill both the ram and the swap
>(try a loop, or a big "make -j", netscapes). This _may_ actually
>crash it, but I think you'll get some errors logged.
>I tried this once (lost the swap partition with buggy fstool on
>rh50), I filled the ram, and it crashed. But with 128M swap (64M
>RAM), I couldn't crash it: at some point, it was too busy
>swapping that I wasn't able to start anymore programs for about 3
>hours. Stopping programs made it come back to life. I hope your
>cron jobs do not last for 3 hours :)
>
>Related may be the size of ram/swap. It was suggested in the unix
>world to use swap = 2 x ram. Maybe this ratio ends up in
>"protective" heavy swapping which prevents launching new apps
>before exhausting the swap space. Not sure if the same ratio
>should apply for SMP.
>
>You can try monitoring the machine until it crashes (or it fills
>the disk) using "top > logfile", but I'm not sure if the file
>will survive after fsck. You might find it in lost+found. This
>may reveal peak loads or memory leaks as root cause. 
>
>But...
>
>> 
>> Here are the machine specs:
>> 
>> Dual Pentium II 266
>> 512mb EDO ECC SDRAM
>> Adaptec 7880 on board SCSI controller
>> 2 - 4.1 GIG IBM UW-SCSI hard drives
>> 3com 10/100 TP Ethernet Card
>> 
>> Redhat 5.0
>> Kernel 2.0.34 w/SMP enabled, no modules. Both SCSI and Netcard driver are
>> built in the kernel.
>
>Amazingly close to what a friend has. His machine was crashing
>out of the blue, or was not booting at all. He mentioned
>something about scsi+smp hw failures.
>I don't know exactly how he solved them, but now it has RH50 with
>kernel 2.1.106(w/SMP), no modules, and everything seems OK,
>despite heavy load peaks (I whitnessed loads over 16):
>
>$ uptime
> 12:46am  up 6 days, 10:24h,  8 users,  load average: 0.61, 0.44,
>0.38
>
>Maybe upgrading the kernel?
>Hope it helps,
>dan
>
>
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