Dear Friends, A nights sleep, and responses from the 2 Dave's helped restore calm in my temper. I had no real plans for anything really destructive ( although I did have fleeting visions of piracy and burning their logo on their lawn ). But I also have yet to see if they have in their license a statement of the following flavor: ....absolutely no warrantees of any kind.... This statement, while protecting them from stupid or frivolous lawsuits, COULD be used to say in effect "Hey, I didn't promise you anything. Not even that it will install properly." I am not saying that they will behave this way. BUT, so far, the response has been that way at the "droid" level. By the way, the company in question is SCO. It is their OS and their compiler. BTW, virtually everyone in the SCO community knows about this kind of behavior! Most of us have thrown up our hands, in a "who has the time to take on city hall?" kind of response. THIS is exactly the kind of thing which will open some doors of opportunity for some other OS to step in. It seems as though Windows NT, having mindshare in much of Corporate America, will be the likely successor. WE, OF COURSE, WANT LINUX to dominate the desktops. For a long time I have tried to figure out how to begin to make it happen. I think the solution is in the following: 1. Lobbying. Talk to your supervisors and co-workers about all of the positive ways it could be used in your office. Let them know that major products like Wordperfect, and Sybase are available for Linux. 2. Lobby the major software vendors. Tell them that you want to see their product on Linux. For example: We should lobby Corel to produce " Quattro " for Unix/Linux. They already have Wordperfect Version 8. BTW, WP on Linux is SOOOOOOO cool!!! We should lobby Adobe for Illustrator for Unix/Linux. Or PhotoShop. I have seen repeated postings for Quicken. This is not a promise to buy - you'll buy it if you need it - they need to get a certain volume of calls to begin to look at whether 5 million desktops is a worthwhile target. 3. Maybe we should set up a fund/contest which would recognise the best products in each of 5 categories: 1. Finance - ( Quicken Clones - not just a checkbook application ) 2. CAD/Design - A real, user friendly and useable drawing package. 3. Word Processing. Obvious. Compatibility with 2 major formats. 4. Spreadsheet. Also obvious. Compatibility with 2 formats. 5. Database -Simple: You know, you could be dead and understand it. 6. Database Complex. Formats aside, Usability, reasonable speed, and of course - RELIABILITY is paramount. Winner is selected by e-mailed in votes or by hitting a web-page with a counter? If 3 million users put in 50 cents, we could offer 250,000 dollar awards ! Or we could buy the R&D for products we want. Like maybe we ask how many people would pitch in 50 cents to see ACT for Linux ? What do you guys think ? Maybe it would bring more name recognition into our realm. OK, I'm done dreaming. Back to work. Greg ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, Errata and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ /RedHat-Errata /RedHat-Tips /mailing-lists To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.