<<With regard to Joe Sixpack, I think there has got to be a version that has a really
stable
<<kernal, together with known bug free programs so that a newcomer can get Linux to
work
<<on a basic windoze box. This might mean stepping back 2 or 3 three versions rather
than
<<try ro go for the leading edge stuff. I agree with what Shawn says above. Get
someone
<<hooked on Linux first, then encourage them to move on to newer leading edge stuff if
that
<<is what they
Absolutely agree. 110%. Out of the box even for a simple install, Lunix has
unresolved and simple bugs, yes group, how can we fix the simple problems that occur
even on install that would prevent the joe professionals like myself from pitching the
thing in the trash right off and going back to MeagerSoft Windoze.
I agree with a simple kernel that has out of the box wp, e-mail, X-Interface and ppp
service without having to learn about the intricacies of unix.
Mike
Michael Hatzakis Jr, MD
Resident Physiatrist - R3
Department of Rehabilitation
Thomas Jefferson University Medical Center
Philadelphia, PA, 19026
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Subject: Re: Linux and Joe Sixpack
Shawn McMahon said:
>Sure, Windows 95 sucks. But so does Linux. It just sucks in a different
>.place.
>
>My hypothesis is that if you start from a stable foundation and build toward
>Joe Sixpack, you're going to end up with a better platform than if you start
>with Joe Sixpack and build toward stability.
>
>The problem is that Linux isn't getting there fast enough. Actually, that's
>not really the problem, Linux is fine where it is. The real problem is that
>people are trying to CLAIM it's at Joe Sixpack's level, and it's not.
The impression I get is that things having been moving too fast. We seem
to be edging towards the situation commercial Unix was in, with 4 or 5
slightly incompatible distributions and users who support their own brand
of Linux to the exclusion of all others. The original concept seems to
have got lost along the way
I read postings saying RedHat should fix this or that, that xos has a bug
free lp or whatever. I thought the driving force behind the development of
Linux was that people got on and fixed the bugs themselves.
With regard to Joe Sixpack, I think there has got to be a version that has
a really stable kernal, together with known bug free programs so that a
newcomer can get Linux to work on a basic windoze box. This might mean
stepping back 2 or 3 three versions rather than try ro go for the leading
edge stuff. I agree with what Shawn says above. Get someone hooked on
Linux first, then encourage them to move on to newer leading edge stuff if
that is what they want. That means making it fairly painless to get
started.
I know it is difficult to tell people developing the latest GUI or
Graphics package or MIDI interface that they should concentrate first on
the known problems in essential packages without which we cannot get
useful work done. But to be honest just how many diferent graphical
interfaces do we need. fvwm isn't very pretty but do we really need to
copy win95's look and feel.
Just read this month's Linux Journal to get an idea of how much time is
being spent on developing these interfaces. I hesitate to say time wasted,
and the developers would be upset if I did, but it would benefit all of
us more if that time could have been spent on getting rid of some of the
bugs that are plaguing the working lives of you guys.
For me it doesn't really matter, OS/2 has all I need for my personal
activities, running a MTB club etc. I run Linux for pleasure, to keep my
mind active in retirement so can put up with little inconveniences like
being unable to print from StarOffice. It is a not a critical os/app for
me and if it takes several weeks of spare time to fix the world won't come
to an end.
Yeh! I think OS/2 should be where windros is today but thinking it won't
make it so. And it will take a lot more than a few million dollars to
dislodge M$. Your DOJ could maybe have done it had they not been conned
by promises from BG not to be such a naughty boy. Now so many enterprises
are tied into M$, it will too difficult to change things.
Just my two penny-worth (what will that be if we get lumbered with a
euro?) --
Using OS/2 Warp 4 FP6, Injoy and MR/2 ICE
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