Remembering that someone mentioned that /etc/rc.d/init.d/xntpd start did an ntpdate call before starting xntpd I got to wondering why I have always had to do this manually. looking at the packages provided script I found this in the start case: # Adjust time to make life easy for xntpd if [ -f /etc/ntp/step-tickers ]; then echo -n "Syncing time for xntpd. " /usr/sbin/ntpdate -s -b -p 8 -u `cat /etc/ntp/step-tickers` fi Now I understand why I have to manaully do this, I have no /etc/ntp/step-tickers. What should be in there? The only thing I can see from the ntpdate docs would be a list of servers. <going to look> </going to look> I put a single ipaddress of a ntp server in there and sure enough it seemed to work but where is this documented? Shouldn't this grep the ntp.conf file if that is the desired result? Hmm having said that I guess that would not work for a broadcast only client. Still this is a pretty neat code snippet and should be documented somewhere, but if it is I missed it. A grep 'step-tickers' /usr/doc/xntp3-5.93/* returned nothing. Comments welcome. Bret -- To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject.