I think you will find your network construction is the problem.  I think
this is what you want:

INTERNET
    |
    |
    |
 DSL Modem
    |
    |
    m5
    |
    |__________ROUTER
                  |
                  |
                  |
           ________________
           |    |    |    |
           |    |    |    |
           m1   m2   m3   m4

HTH,
Bill

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Harry Putnam
> Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 10:22 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: networking puzzle
>
>
> [NOTE Windbag ALERT.. what follows seemed necessary to
> give enough detail for a helpfull reply..sorry]
>
> Setup: RH 7.1 (two nics
>                RealTek RTl8029
>                (NETGEAR) Lite-On 82c168 PNIC)
> Home network DSL connected.
> Hardware router/gateway at DSL MODEM
>
> Background info:
>   I've been running with only one of the above nics activated for a
>   very long time. The Realtek My setup looked like
>
>                   INTERNET
>                      |
>                   dsl modem
>                      |
>                    ROUTER (gateway) NETGEAR FR314
>                      |
>    ---------------------------------
>    |      |      |        |        |
>   m1     m2     m3       m4       m5
>
> I'm working machine 5 in the picture.
>
>
> I wanted to do some experimenting with iptables and ipmasquerade.
> Something I had going before installing the hardware router about 1
> yr ago.  So don't remember all the config problems etc.
>
>
> What I've run into is that after configuring the second nic and being
> able to ping it from the machine it is located on.  I'm not able to
> ping the machines I hooked up to it.  Machines 1-4 in the picture
> below.  Thru a simple hub
>
>                   INTERNET
>                      |
>                   dsl modem (Static IP)
>                      |
>                    ROUTER (gateway) NETGEAR FR314 192.168.0.1
>                      |--eth0 192.168.0.5
>                    --M5--
>                      |--eth1 192.168.0.10
>            -----Simple hub (Netgear DS108)--------
>             |         |        |        |
>             m1        m2       m3      m4
>
>
> On a reboot, the messages say eth0 and eth1 came up ok.
> Dmesg shows them on the same IRQ (9) (I remember that being the
> case before too, so don't think that is a problem)
>
> Tail of dmesg:
>   [...]
>   ne2k-pci.c:v1.02 10/19/2000 D. Becker/P. Gortmaker
>     http://www.scyld.com/network/ne2k-pci.html
>   PCI: Assigned IRQ 9 for device 00:08.0
>   eth0: RealTek RTL-8029 found at 0xd800, IRQ 9, 00:00:E8:90:99:20.
>   Linux Tulip driver version 0.9.15-pre6 (July 2, 2001)
>   PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 00:09.0
>   tulip0:  MII transceiver #1 config 3000 status 7809
> advertising 01e1.
>   eth1: Lite-On 82c168 PNIC rev 32 at 0xc8838000, 00:A0:CC:59:6B:FC,
>   IRQ 9.
>
> Ifconfig shows them both up:
>   [...]
>   eth0    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:E8:90:99:20
>           inet addr:192.168.0.5  Bcast:192.168.0.255
> Mask:255.255.255.0
>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>           RX packets:858 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:989 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
>           Interrupt:9 Base address:0xd800
>
>   eth1    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:A0:CC:59:6B:FC
>           inet addr:192.168.0.10  Bcast:192.168.0.255
> Mask:255.255.255.0
>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
>           Interrupt:9 Base address:0x8000
>   [...]
>
> Netstat -nr shows this picture:
>   Kernel IP routing table
>   Destination   Gateway     Genmask       Flags   MSS Win  irtt Iface
>   192.168.0.0   0.0.0.0     255.255.255.0   U      40 0       0 eth0
>   192.168.0.0   0.0.0.0     255.255.255.0   U      40 0       0 eth1
>   127.0.0.0     0.0.0.0     255.0.0.0       U      40 0       0 lo
>   0.0.0.0       192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0         UG     40 0       0 eth0
>
> Can't remember if I have to do something tricky about the gateway.
> Trying to ping any of the connected local machines fails:
>
>   reader $ ping 192.168.0.4
>   PING 192.168.0.4 (192.168.0.4) from 192.168.0.5 : 56(84)
> bytes of data.
>   From 192.168.0.5: Destination Host Unreachable
>   [...]
>
> Looks like I may be pinging thru the wrong nic.  192.168.0.5 is the
> internet side (eth0).  But shouldn't 192.168.0.10 (local eth1) carry
> the ball in that case?
>
> If I shut down 192.168.0.5 then the 192.168.0.10 nic tries:
>    root # ping 192.168.0.4
>   PING 192.168.0.4 (192.168.0.4) from 192.168.0.10 : 56(84) bytes of
>   data.
>   From 192.168.0.10: Destination Host Unreachable
>   [...]
>
> what fundamental thing am I forgetting here?
>
>
>
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