Pre-preface: I solved certain problems while writing this email so there may be some inconsistencies.
Preface: I have to say I'm a little disappointed in the consistency of some of the packages as installed in 7.3. The majordomo.cf file points to /var/test/majordomo, apaches /doc/, as shipped, gives a "forbidden" error, mailman files are owned by root instead of mailman and is not integrated into apache to work, and maybe, just maybe, if you're doing an expert install the system shouldn't put in aliases for cp, mv, and rm. So on my Red Hat 7.1 system I'm replacing, I had several mailing lists in majordomo. I moved them over to the new box, and updated the new majordomo.cf, and am getting the following errors when sending mail to any list, or even evoking a majordomo command: Message delivered to mailing list majordomo Illegal command: majordomo 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 6 or Message delivered to mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Illegal command: resend 554 5.3.0 unknown mailer error 6 Message delivered to mailing list owner-geek The "Illegal command:" seems to be the problem. ./wrapper config-test indicates I have all the files set up correctly, and that HOME=/usr/lib/majordomo correctly. resend and majordomo and friends are in that directory, yet I still get this error. OK, so that's majordomo. I have mailman installed too, and thought about moving to that, but the documentation seems insufficient for me here too. I set up the config file, and check_perms indicates all is well there (after I fixed it from root.root, as the package installed it, which was wrong), and put the Include in httpd.conf, but I'm lost at what exactly is supposed to get loaded when I browse http://my.domain.org/mailman/. I can't find any index documents there, and I can't find anything in the documentation on how to configure apache to point it at something. I finally found from the GNU website that it's hostname.tld/mailman/admin, but without a file extension and no man pages, this is far from obvious -------------------------------------------- Now for my current state: I have figured out, from a clue in an article in SysAdmin magazine (http://www.samag.com/documents/s=1149/sam0106k/0106k.htm), that mailman *also* uses the command "wrapper" to execute commands, so majordomo was trying to send majordomo commands to mailman's wrapper. WTF!?!?! I cannot fathom the reason why these two packages would choose the same arbitrary name for this one file which must be in /etc/smrsh/, making them mutually exclusive, but I realize that is beyond the scope of this list. But Red Hat put these packages together, and set up the package dependencies. You would think it would prevent you from installing the second without uninstalling the first if they cannot coexist. I still might have figured this out in less than three hours of hacking, though, if the included documentation was better. So moral of the story is that majordomo and mailman cannot coexist as installed. I haven't tried it, but I suppose it would be possible to rename one of the wrappers to something else, as long as the sendmail alias files are changed to match. Anybody try this? Sorry, I just hadta rant. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- DDDD David Kramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://thekramers.net DK KD Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really DKK D embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen DK KD an angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph. They'd be a DDDD lot more careful about what they say if they had. Linus Torvalds -- redhat-list mailing list unsubscribe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
