We don't have enough information to talk about it. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected]>wrote:
> Oh he definitely saw it, but does he have the cajones to insist and control > pitchers. That's my point. Tek would blow off the pitching coach and steer > the pitcher. VM is probably not as confident and controlling at this point > behind the plate. > > ------------------------------ > *From*: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > *To*: [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Sent*: Tue Sep 29 06:24:09 2009 > *Subject*: Re: Vent > > I also think that Martinez might know a thing or two about pitchers. > > If you saw it, you can bet that he did too. > > On Sep 29, 2009, at 8:57 AM, "Beaudoin, John" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > That's why I want to see the replay. I don't think his fastball had any > movement whatsoever. I don't think it was thrown well and tek would have > known it and not let him throw it after the first or second or third hit. > > No, we'll never know, and all for benching Tek, but I really believe he'd > have made a difference last night with the rookies. > > John > > ------------------------------ > *From*: [email protected] <[email protected]> > > *To*: [email protected] <[email protected]> > *Sent*: Tue Sep 29 05:07:24 2009 > *Subject*: Re: Vent > > Well, we'll never know. But I still think that wrong pitch thrown well is > better than the right pitch thrown poorly. > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:46 AM, Beaudoin, John <<[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Weird night. >> hey I liked that lefty we had. Was it "Richardson"? Where'd he come from? >> The other two sucked, but he looked good. >> >> I maintain that Tek would have handled the pitches better and the game >> would not have gotten out of control. Who even knew Bowden had a slider, >> curve, and change until it was 4-0? I'd like to see the replay of the game >> at home. I swear he threw almost all fastballs until they were down 4-0. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From*: >> <[email protected]>[email protected]<<[email protected]> >> [email protected]> >> *To*: <[email protected]>[email protected] >> <<[email protected]> >> [email protected]> >> *Sent*: Tue Sep 29 04:31:40 2009 >> *Subject*: Re: Vent >> >> The field was a swamp. >> >> I've never seen such rain. >> >> On Sep 28, 2009, at 10:47 PM, "Beaudoin, John" <<[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> 2 on, no outs, down by six in the 7th. >> Downpour turning to rain, then light rain all lasting 20 to 30 minutes >> until no rain and clearing sky. >> >> They canceled the game. WTF!!! I've never seen such a thing. I don't get >> it. Did the Sox forfeit? I don't get it. One swing could make it a 3 run >> game with 9 outs left. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From*: >> <[email protected]>[email protected]<<[email protected]> >> [email protected]> >> *To*: <[email protected]>[email protected] >> <<[email protected]> >> [email protected]> >> *Sent*: Mon Sep 28 17:22:44 2009 >> *Subject*: Re: Vent >> >> I hate to start this, but it wouild be 2-2 and not 7-3 if Tek was >> catching. Tek would have not let Bowden throw those fastballs and he also >> would not have been on basae when Youk hit the HR. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From*: >> <[email protected]>[email protected]<<[email protected]> >> [email protected]> >> *To*: <[email protected]>[email protected] >> <<[email protected]> >> [email protected]> >> *Sent*: Mon Sep 28 16:41:22 2009 >> *Subject*: RE: Vent >> >> Momentum is in the eye of the beholder. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* >> <[email protected]>[email protected][mailto:<[email protected]> >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ray Salemi >> *Sent:* Monday, September 28, 2009 12:49 PM >> *To:* <[email protected]> <[email protected]> >> [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: Vent >> >> Wow. That exact game is my evidence as well. >> >> If momentum had any value at all, the Yankees would have been >> unstoppable. But fortunately, it didn't. >> >> Randomness does not mean evenness. Stratomatic was also very streaky. >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Steve Gendron < >> <[email protected]><[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I disagree Ray. I think that momentum and confidence mean a lot in >>> baseball. Sure I know that these games mean nothing in the standings, but >>> as a fan it is frustrating to see the Sox lose 8 straight and get swept by >>> the Yankees, and it has to do something to the psyche of the players as >>> well. >>> >>> I will use 2004 as a case in point. The Red Sox were in a funk in the >>> ALCS that year, losing 3 straight to the Yankees. The 3rd in miserable >>> fashion (as Tom can tell you), and furthermore they were about to lose game >>> 4 when the Yankees handed the ball to Mariano with a 1 run lead in the >>> ninth. It took an unlikely and hugely emotional event to reverse their >>> fortunes in that game - and it shifted the momentum of the series. That >>> momentum carried right thru the World Series. >>> >>> Why are baseball players and teams so streaky? It is because of the >>> shifts in confidence, momentum and emotions. They are not playing >>> strat-o-matic out there. Human emotions make a difference, and I would >>> prefer not to see them heading into the playoffs felling like they can't >>> beat the Yankees. >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* <[email protected]><[email protected]> >>> [email protected] >>> [mailto:<[email protected]><[email protected]> >>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ray Salemi >>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:26 PM >>> *To:* <[email protected]><[email protected]> >>> [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: Vent >>> >>> Oh Good Lord. Haven't we learned yet that there is no such thing as a >>> "head of steam" in baseball? >>> >>> It just takes one good pitcher to blow that steam away. >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Steve Gendron < >>> <[email protected]><[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Your rant is right on target Matt. I thought my head was going to >>>> explode when Woodward blew that play on the rundown. Does Francona think >>>> it >>>> is a good idea to send the Yankees into the post-season with a head of >>>> steam? We took the first 8 games from the Yankees this season and now we >>>> are on the verge of allowing them to tie the season series. We've lost 8 >>>> of >>>> the last 9 games to these guys. They have owned us in the second half. >>>> And >>>> today, the brooms will be out as the Yanks prepare to win their 100th game >>>> of the season and clinch the division. >>>> >>>> Take heart though, we've got Paul Byrd on the hill. >>>> >>>> Steve >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* <[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>> [email protected] >>>> [mailto:<[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Matt & Olga McSorley >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 26, 2009 7:17 PM >>>> *To:* <[email protected]><[email protected]> >>>> [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Vent >>>> >>>> I know these games don't matter much in the long run, but... >>>> >>>> It is so frustrating watching Chris Woodward and Brian Anderson bumble >>>> their way through life when a playoff spot has not yet been clinched, and >>>> when a sweep this weekend gives the Yankees the division. Woodward's >>>> ridiculous error in the eighth today, which led to two critical Yankee >>>> runs, >>>> was painful to watch. Why the hell is he on the field? I mean, we all know >>>> the bad guys are going to win the AL East but wouldn't you think the Sox >>>> would manage and play this weekend as if avoiding having to watch them >>>> dance >>>> all over the field mattered? For crying out loud, there's seven games with >>>> Toronto and Cleveland this week to play the Pawtucket kiddie corps. >>>> >>>> OK. Rant over. >>>> >>>> -- Matt >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity in >>> Just 12 Weeks" >>> <http://www.leadingafteralayoff.com><http://www.leadingafteralayoff.com> >>> www.leadingafteralayoff.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity in >> Just 12 Weeks" >> <http://www.leadingafteralayoff.com> <http://www.leadingafteralayoff.com> >> www.leadingafteralayoff.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity in > Just 12 Weeks" > <http://www.leadingafteralayoff.com>www.leadingafteralayoff.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity in Just 12 Weeks" www.leadingafteralayoff.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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