Unfortunately, his job is to get these knuckleheads to play. If he can't do it - even if it's not his fault - then he's not effective.
He's a good man, though. Seems that way at least. I'm missing the Carmine jokes. Is that a computer thing? On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley <[email protected] > wrote: > Or maybe they should fire that bastard Carmine. :) > > *From:* Matt & Olga McSorley <[email protected]> > *To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, September 30, 2011 11:43 AM > *Subject:* Re: Tito Out > > Starting to read rumblings that players were a bit too entitled and not > focused on their jobs (e.g. pitchers drinking beer during games they weren't > pitching -- sounds like Lackey/Beckett to me); complaints about team buses & > stuff that had nothing to do with winning games). Based on my observations > of the team, which I grant are pretty fallible and uninformed -- I'm just > telling you what I perceive -- it wouldn't surprise me in the least. > Something about this team didn't look right to the naked eye. > > And if that's the case, I'm even more with Francona. Seems to me Francona > didn't see his job as having to tell players to act professionally. They're > paid a lot of money and you'd figure the need to act professionally would be > impressed upon them at contract time. > > Maybe Francona doesn't want to stay. But if I were running the club and > that's what I was facing, I'd clear out the problem players and keep a > manager who has demonstrated he knows what it takes to win. > > -- Matt > > *From:* Tom Salemi <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Friday, September 30, 2011 10:16 AM > *Subject:* Re: Tito Out > > Folks, we we just bypass the predictable media bashing. This is the way the > business works. You had the manager and general manager on a stage SAYING > that here were problems in the locker room. The reporters run out, make > calls to players and try to get as many specifics as we can. > > And NO ONE in ANY business is giving to give information that can come back > and bite them (except for Kevin Millar who welcomed A-rod with open arms > before the trade was made. He had to apologize to Nomar.) They also might > not want to identify a teammate because they've got some sense of loyalty or > fear. > > As for the Captain, that stuff is largely ceremonial. I mean it works for a > while if the entire locker room buys into it. But if they don't, what the > hell is Tek going to do. Even if he tried to hit them with a bat he'd > probably miss. > > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: > > I wish for once, that someone would publish names. All of this hinting > about this stuff is bs. Who was 'lawless'? Who put their > own interests before the teams? Why didn't the captain do anything about > this? Isn't Tek culpable here too? Otherwise, why do > you even have a captain? > > Dan D > Central NJ USA > > *From:* Tom Salemi <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Friday, September 30, 2011 9:36 AM > *Subject:* Re: Tito Out > > From the Herald... > > Discipline was clearly a problem, which is one of the perils of managing a > high-priced team when some stars share a sense of entitlement. The Red Sox > seemed content to ride their considerable talent out of the gates and ended > up getting smacked in the face with a 2-10 start. > A month later they were just 17-20 when Epstein traveled to New York and > met privately with Francona and his coaches, a meeting Francona later > described as “respectful,” to reinforce the need for the team to play > passionate, fundamentally sound ball. > The Sox rolled for the next four months, but their win totals often masked > some fundamental flaws, flaws which became fatal in September when the > clubhouse veered toward lawlessness and a number of players put their own > interests ahead of those of Francona and the team. > Francona admitted yesterday taking the incredible step of calling a team > meeting on Sept. 7, one day after the Sox had pounded the Jays 14-0. > “This team I think became challenging at the end,” Francona said. “There > were some things I was worried about. We were spending too much energy on > things that weren’t putting our best foot forward toward winning. > “We spent a few minutes in the clubhouse that day talking about that. There > were some things that did concern me. Normally as the season progresses, > there are events that make you care about each other, and this club, it > didn’t always happen as much as I wanted it to. And I was frustrated by > that.” > According to multiple sources with knowledge of the meeting, Francona was > in part annoyed over complaints about the buses to the ballpark and wanted > players to focus their energy more positively. > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > I do hope Theo stays. Not because of any man-love thing, I just like his > approach (poor free agent record notwithstanding.) > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yeah, that's the talk around here on the morning shows. > > If I had to choose, I'd take him over the entire club house. But that isn't > how it works. > > The wheels are definitely coming off the wagon. My antipathy for this team > grows. > > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: > > Fox Sports reporting that he won' be back. > > Dan D > Central NJ USA > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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