It doesn't bother me, I am obviously not explaining it well! The cost comes
on whether I designate the circuits for each GFI. Another words, if I have
one GFI run to one circuit breaker, it is $225.00. If I just have a GFI
installed, it is $85.00. So, for each GFI I have dedicated to its own
circuit breaker, it is $225.00. You are basically paying for them to run
separate wires for each individual GFI. If I don't have the GFIs dedicated
to their own circuit, and just have them wire the house like normal, I will
probably just install my own.
Shane
-----Original Message-----
From: Culross, Andrew [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 10:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: GFIs
Ooops, confused again.
I understand the concept of a dedicated circuit
I know what a GFI outlet looks like and have installed them, they
are not
that expensive
What I don't understand is the price of $85 vs $225. A GFI outlet is
not
$140.
Does it cost $85 to have an outlet placed in the wall and $225 to
have that
outlet be on it's own dedicated circuit ?
I promise not to ask anymore questions about this !!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 1:15 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: GFIs
Basically. The way it works is that the builder will install the
GFIs into
the wall, like a normal plug in. They then run the wires to the
circuit
breaker box and wire them into their own circuit breaker, separate
from all
other plugs in the house. They are not a special type of circuit
breaker,
but instead it is a separate circuit breaker that is wired in
specifically
to the GFIs that I select. I could run both (I say both because the
wall
that my tank will be on comes standard with two plug ins) of them
into the
same circuit breaker, or I could run each of them into their own
individual
circuit breaker. You can even have an electrician come to an already
built
home and have them install a specific circuit breaker for your tank
and run
GFIs into that circuit breaker using the same wires that the
original plug
ins were wired to. They would just trade those plug ins with GFIs.
That
would separate your GFIs from all other appliances in the house, and
would
put the tank on its own circuit. I was just thinking it might be
nice to do
it now, while the house is being built.
Sorry if this is confusing!
Shane
-----Original Message-----
From: Culross, Andrew [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 9:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: GFIs
So you're telling me that their exists special circuit
breakers that
have
GFI built into them and those breaker are (225-85) dollars
more
expensive. I
see now.
I didn't realize that - and I like it !!
If it were me I'd do two circuits with these special
breakers. I
know it's
$280 but it could save someone's life.
-----Original Message-----
From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:54 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: GFIs
Hi Andrew. It is not necessarily a problem. It is an
opportunity, I
guess.
Our house is being built, and I have the chance to have the
tanks
outlets
run on their own circuit, to their own fuse. So the tank
would have
its own
circuit breaker. You know how you have the breaker box that
has
things
marked, like the washer and dryer. If there is a problem,
the
breaker will
switch off, and you have to throw that switch to turn it
back on.
Well, I
can have one of these for the tank. Not only that, but I can
have
one for
each of the outlets if I want. The advantage is that the
tank would
have its
own circuit breaker, and so I could flip that breaker switch
and
turn the
tank off without turning anything else in the house off. Not
only
that, but
having its own circuit would help insure that I don't
overload the
circuit
because I am sharing it with other household items.
If overloading a circuit is not a concern with my tank, then
I would
gladly
save the money and simply switch the regular outlets with
GFIs and
run it on
the normal circuit. Does anyone know if overloading would
every be a
problem
or if I should run the tank on its own circuit or should I
simply
switch the
outlets out for GFIs myself?
Thanks again!
Shane
-----Original Message-----
From: Culross, Andrew [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 9:38 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: GFIs
I don't have a clear understanding of the problem
here but
let me
throw in
my two cents.
First of all I applaued your desire to use a GFI
circuit. I
install
them
whereever I have a tank. Look folks, seawater and
electricity CAN
KILL YOU.
We have our hand and our children's hands in these
tank.
Second, what I usually do is buy a GFI outlet to
replace the
standard outlet
that is in the wall. Perhaps what you are talking
about is
even
better but
these replacement outlets are only $20-$30.
-----Original Message-----
From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2001 12:17 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: GFIs
All (and any electricians),
I would like to have the builders of our home
install GFIs
into the
wall
that my tank will be on. The wall will have to
separate
plugs, but
right now
both run on the same circuit, along with about 3
other
plugs. I am
contemplating having them run the two along the wall
of my
tank on
their own
circuit. So the tank will have its own fuse etc. My
question
is
this.
Do you all think that just running those two by
themselves
will be
sufficient, or should I run each of the two GFIs to
their
own
circuit.
Another words, I could use one GFI for the lights,
and it
would be
run to
its own fuse and then the other would run my pumps
and
chiller, and
it would
be run to its own fuse. Advantages would be no power
interrupt for
the
lights when the chiller kicks on, as well as the
ability to
power
off the
lights w/o powering off the pumps or vice versa. The
lights
would be
getting
their own circuit. I am looking at running about
1500 watts
of light
over
about 200-225 gallons of water. If I share a circuit
with
the two of
them,
would that overload it? The disadvantage of doing it
is they
are
about 225
bucks a piece if I run each of them on a separate
circuit.
If it is
necessary, I will do it. If I can just run the two
of them
on their
own
circuit, and will be just fine, I will go that
route. Then
they are
$85.00
each.
TIA,
Shane C.
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