Why can't we all just get along!!!

[Ken Ziggy]

Title: RE: Thanks Shane!!!

We are supposed to be uniting together as a nation to fight against terrorism and inhuman acts and bad feelings for one another.If we can't get along on this list how are we going to win the battle against these ungodly terrorist willing to kill themselfs for thousands of our lifes.I'd like to come home from work and read all the interesting things everyone is doing with there tanks etc.If someone comes on the list and acts way out of line lets just ignore them and they will go away sooner or later.I just delete the message and go on to something interesting.Sorry for my opinions if I'm way off base.This was getting way out of hand.United We Stand!!!!! Hey Guys and gals by the way My tank is looking great again.Minus any fish though.My emerald ,hermit crabs,starfish,snails, carib cucumber all made it thru the heater blow up and are all looking good.I see alot of tiny copepods etc running around in my substrate also.Whew.I hope I never have to go thru that again.Lets keep this list going happily and strong.Ken. God Bless America. ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Dillard To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 8:37 PM Subject: Re: Thanks Shane!!!     I take full responsibility for my actions, no one forced me to respond to Marco's remarks.  I am going to leave the list, I have neither helped nor learned much here, and have really stirred things up.  I am sorry that I ever voiced my opinions here, and if I could I would take back everything I said.  But I cant and after this thread has ended I will leave and let you all discuss reef keeping in full.     Sorry again Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: Gene Murphy To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:14 PM Subject: RE: Thanks Shane!!! Andrew:   your point lacks "credence"...we all both as Americans...and all other peoples of the world were touched, both in sadness and in anger...by the events of the past week... so why do you feel that that makes you "special"...to be able to insult those "different" from you?  Why do you always play the "victim"...as a 100% disabled combat Vietnam Veteran...and NO...I am not whining...but proud of that...this past week has brought back much to me...on a very "personable level"...but it does not allow me...to become...the very thing...that we are finding ourselves in trouble for...we need to come back to a place of...mutual respect and honor...for people of all races,creeds,religions, and nationalities. To make such a statement...as..."heck , I even like Mexican food"...completely...gives you UP...for who you really are. A "know it all"...hiding behind your racist rhetoric. And yes Andrew...I do not usually add to the "fire" in this list...but this is one time , I agree with ever one...who has been on your case... For yours is a case to...be ON. Respectfully Geno -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew Dillard Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Thanks Shane!!! should I then to forward Marco's remarks in Spanish?  I would not think of such a thing, I think things said on the list should stay there, and would not think of invading his privacy like that.  I am sorry to offend you but put yourself in my place.  You post a joking response to someones reply about a UV, they in turn post a smug reply to your remarks in a language you do not understand. All the other Latin Americans/ Spanish speaking peoples jump on the band wagon about how those obscene remarks are perfect for the situation.  I truly am sorry about this and I am not calling anyone close minded but myself.  Not to be rude but perhaps this was misinterpereted.  I am very sorry, lately I have been really angry, I knew a few at the Pentagon and all week I have been building up to this level.  I am sorry I took it out on Marco and the others.    Do what you will, Andrew   ----- Original Message ----- From: Luis Mercado To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:16 PM Subject: Re: Thanks Shane!!! Andrew:       Even your apologies seem to implied disdain and intolerance for others. Banning you from the list would be a great start. But I have also forwarded your remarks to your ISP as I believe they have a clause about espousing racist and/or intolerant or libelous views. Your remark about upsetting hispanics and liking mexican food just go to show your utter lack of any tact or  taste. And the term is Latin-American but any other distinction other than a member of the human race is unacceptable to me. ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Dillard To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 6:53 PM Subject: Re: Thanks Shane!!! not a racist, am sorry if I offended the hispanics on this board.  Heck I even like Mexican food.  What would you do when a bunch of mexicans start cussing you out?  Hmm, that makes me want to give them a big hug....  Go ahead and ban me from the list, it wont make me cry.   Sometimes it is hard to communicate through writing, I tend to be rather blunt when expressing my (usually) close minded views.  I am sorry that people get offended.    Andrew ----- Original Message ----- From: Luis Mercado To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 6:13 PM Subject: Re: Thanks Shane!!! Andrew:        It is obvious that you think you know it all. On top of that you seem to be a racist idiot as well. With all that is going on in the country, which by the way is fostered by attitudes just like yours, it is not needed or wanted on this lists to hear the idiotic and racists ideas of someone who could not probably find his A##$hole with a flashlight and a map.      Please take your sort of crap off list and if you cannot provide any useful help without insulting somebody's race or ideas, then your kind of help is certainly not wanted or needed. Luis Mercado President & CEO PlanetReef Enterprises [EMAIL PROTECTED] planetreef@@mindspring.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph. (646) 207-1485 fax: (718) 504-4879 http://www.planet-reef.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Dillard To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:51 PM Subject: Re: Thanks Shane!!! oh no the mexicans are ganging up on me, I cant state on this list my feelings towards the mexican community.  Everyday there are more and more illegal mexicans crossing the border, living illegaly and hurting the economy.  Anyway, you reef your way, its your tank that you're hurting.   Andrew   PS Anyone know what chinganda means in mexican speak? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jose Arturo Perez Vera To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 4:27 PM Subject: RE: Thanks Shane!!! Agree !! Reef Man -----Original Message----- From: Luis Mercado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Thanks Shane!!! Well said! and Ditto!Luis Mercado President & CEO PlanetReef Enterprises [EMAIL PROTECTED] planetreef@@mindspring.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph. (646) 207-1485 fax: (718) 504-4879 http://www.planet-reef.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marco Delsordo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:32 PM Subject: RE: Thanks Shane!!! andrew, simplemente vete a la chingada gracias. Marco -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Dillard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Lunes, 17 de Septiembre de 2001 02:19 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Thanks Shane!!! I'm glad for you, you can now kill benificial micro organisms and bacteria more effectively!  That way you can grow even more of that beautiful scarlet algae!  Man I wish I had a UV....... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marco Delsordo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:08 AM Subject: Thanks Shane!!! Ohh Shane, you�re a Godess, i could just kiss you if you were here!!!. Remember my uv with all the quartz tubes all covered with calcium sediments??? well, I followed your advice and run it for about 2 hours with water + vinegar. When i checked the tubes after 15 mins of being running, the tubes were cristal clear!!!!!!!!!!. I�m so thankfull to you because i will finally use my lamp after a year or so. Even do my fishes are healthier than ever I want to use it to control algae from growing in my tank. Thank you very much. Marco ________________________________________ LEAVING THE LIST =====To stop receiving messages you will need to send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  with a command to remove you from the list. The list manager  controls who belongs to the list. 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