Thanks Dave. Luckily, it did not empty into the tank. It is a leak somewhere. I just have to try and find it and seal it up. Sucks though, cause it costs 15 bucks every time I refill the bottle. I also have the aquacontroller, so I am going to set that to shut my CO2 down when the thank hits a pH of 7.6. That should keep any distasters from happening, hopefully.
Thanks again, Shane > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Akard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 8:45 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Calcium Reactor Update and Questions > > be very carefull with emptying a whole c02 can in one day. I ended up > killing my entire tank that way. > co2 stuck on and dropped the o2 and ph of the tank to less than 6. and > kill > all but my yellow tang and a gobie. lost all corals. pissed me off. I > think > the main problem was I had an enclosed hood. and the co2 and o2 exchange > was > poor when the cannister emptied. > here is a pic of my co2 reactor if you need any pointers. > http://www.geocities.com/vypr_2000/equip/ > hth > dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Shane Clays" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 10:16 AM > Subject: RE: Calcium Reactor Update and Questions > > > > Dave, > > > > Thanks. I will send you a few pics (offline of course). I didnt get the > > chance to work with the reactor this weekend because I seem to have a > leak > > in it somewhere. I had the drip count at one drip every 5 seconds, I > left > > for work, and when I came home, the CO2 bottle was empty (it was a brand > new > > bottle to, pisser). Will start again after I get it refilled. > > > > I do have 2 chambers. One is the reactor, and the other is a single pass > > where the water then flows out and into the area of the sump where the > > output to the tank is. > > > > Thank for you advice! > > > > Shane C. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dave Akard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 8:26 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: Calcium Reactor Update and Questions > > > > > > hey shane can you get me a pic of this setup??? > > > anre you using one or two chambers?? > > > you may need another chamber to even out the ph and co2 > > > if ya want me to build ya one lemme know, this one hardly ever needs > > > adjustment and once set doesnt budge. > > > but with your setup I would suggest another chamvber to soak up the > excess > > > co2 > > > you should start your output at 1.5 liters per hour. I think you are > > > running > > > too much water thru the system too fast. so set your flow first once > that > > > is > > > stable then set your co2 starting at about 1 bub every couple secs. > > > hth > > > dave > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Shane Clays" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 11:30 AM > > > Subject: Calcium Reactor Update and Questions > > > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > Okay, I finally got my needle valve hooked up and it is working > well. > I > > > > currently have the reactor running at 1 bubble every 5 seconds and > an > > > output > > > > rate of about .75 gallons per hour. The weird thing is that for the > last > > > 4-5 > > > > days, I had not been running any CO2 into the reactor because I did > not > > > have > > > > the control on the bubbles that I needed, so I shut it down and just > let > > > the > > > > pumps run without the CO2 injection. During that time, the output > rate > > > was > > > > about a half gallon per hour. So, after about 5 days I got the > needle > > > valve, > > > > and installed it (last night). > > > > > > > > Before injecting with any more CO2 and just out of curiosity, I > tested > > > the > > > > pH. Suprisingly, it tested at 7.5. The pH of the tank was 8.3. I > didnt > > > think > > > > it would be this low since I had not injected with CO2 in almost a > week. > > > > Whats up with that?? Not enough flow out of (and into) the reactor > or > > > what? > > > > I mean, I know CO2 is going to remain in the reactor for a period of > > > time > > > > after you quit injecting, but for a week? I had also hooked up a > second > > > > chamber, so the output is going through about another 3 pounds of > media > > > > before being output into the tank. > > > > > > > > I know it is breaking down the media, because some of the media in > my > > > > reactor has gone from a large grade aragonite to very small sand > like > > > > particulate size, and the tubing I used is now all white and covered > > > with > > > > calcium. Thus, it must be doing the job on the media. > > > > > > > > Now, after I hooked up the CO2 last night, I upped the output from > the > > > > reactor from about a half gallon per hour to three quarters gallon > per > > > hour > > > > (3 quarts) and began to dose the reactor at one bubble every 5 > seconds. > > > > Within an hour, my pH had dropped from 8.3 to 7.72. I then > disconnected > > > the > > > > CO2 and just let the reactor run without it again and the pH came > back > > > up > > > to > > > > 8.06 by this morning. Not only does it run through the second > chamber, > > > but > > > > the output also is on the top of my sump, where the output of my > tank > > > > splashes down. I cant seem to drive the CO2 out of the water at a > high > > > > enough rate, which means that there must be too much CO2 in the > output > > > water > > > > right? > > > > > > > > I have not tested for caclium or alk. coming out of the reactor, > because > > > > without using the CO2, I went back to dosing with additives to > maintain > > > > levels. I planned on letting it run without any additves this > weekend, > > > and > > > > monitoring the rise or fall of calcium and alk. to get an idea of > what > > > it > > > is > > > > doing. > > > > > > > > So, to summarize, at a injection rate of one bubble every 5 seconds > and > > > an > > > > output rate of .75 GPH, my pH dropped significantly. I know it is > > > working > > > > though, due to the calcium collecting on the tubing of the reactor, > > > although > > > > we dont have any specific data because any tests done would have > been > > > scewed > > > > due to the Calcium and Alk. additives used, so no tests were done. I > > > also > > > > did not measure the pH of the output from the first chamber, so that > may > > > be > > > > lower. > > > > > > > > I am already thinking that this reactor is too small. Other wise at > a > > > drip > > > > rate of one bubble every 5 seconds, the pH of my tank should not be > > > affected > > > > that much that quickly, right? I guess it will all depend on what > amount > > > of > > > > calcium and alk. comes from the reactor so I think that is my next > step, > > > > along with measuring the pH of the effluent from the 1st chamber. > > > > > > > > Any thoughts anyone?? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, sorry for the book.... > > > > > > > > Shane C. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > > > > > > LEAVING THE LIST > > > > ================ > > > > To stop receiving messages you will need to send a message to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a command to remove you from the > > > list. > > > The list manager controls who belongs to the list. > > > > > > > > For example: > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > From: John Doe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: <not needed> > > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > > > > LEAVING THE LIST > > > ================ > > > To stop receiving messages you will need to send a message to > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a command to remove you from the > > > list. 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