On 01/03/2019 15:03, Patrick Mevzek wrote: > [snip] > > Instead of updating RFC5733 I would suggest creating a new object, > a "light (or shallow) contact" which is like a contact currently, just with > less fields. > Domains could use "full contacts" (the ones we know today) or light contacts > (the new > ones).
I can't see how this would work. Let's say we define a new object mapping for "light" contacts, with its own namespace, to be used with just the <contact type="tech"> element in domain objects. Could such contacts be used with domains without an update to RFC 5731? Could a registrar determine whether a given contact object was a "full" contact or a "light" without performing an <info> command? I think this would cause a huge amount of confusion and pain. Furthermore, my research[1] indicates that the "one-to-many" relationship between domains and contacts that is implicit in EPP does not reflect reality, so defining a new "first class" EPP object just perpetuates the data management issues that registries currently have to deal with. If we're going to write a new RFC just for technical contacts then I would suggest that it should define an extension to the domain object, since that is (a) simpler for clients and servers to implement and (b) more accurately maps to the way the data is represented and handled outside of EPP. > One has to keep remembering that EPP is not just used by gTLDs, so any change > has to > be done in such a way that it does not impact negatively any operation done > outside > of ICANN circles. It seems to me that updating RFC5733 would have a bigger impact outside the gTLD world than either of the other options I've proposed: presumably many ccTLD registries rely on the the XML schema in RFC 5733 to enforce their data collection policies, but if we change that schema, and they unknowingly update their implementation, then their data collection policy will be changed without them knowingly accepting it. G. [1]: http://regiops.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/ROW6_Brown_Contact-Object-Management-by-Registrars.pdf -- Gavin Brown Chief Technology Officer CentralNic Group plc (LSE:CNIC) Innovative, Reliable and Flexible Registry Services for ccTLD, gTLD and private domain name registries https://www.centralnic.com/ +44.7548243029 CentralNic Group plc is a company registered in England and Wales with company number 8576358. Registered Offices: 35-39 Moorgate, London, EC2R 6AR.
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