On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 09:15:19AM -0700, Nicholas Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [turning off write-cache] > I'm sorry, but that's not acceptable.
(I had it turned off for a long time, until I reasoned: real power-outages are very rare, so I can leave it turned on anyways and risk a filesystemcheck after outages). The reason this kills performance ALWAYS is that ide does not support large enough transfer sizes (8-32k on most drives) to fill one track. Turning off write caching has a big chance of lowering your transaction throughput to the drive's RPM. Combined with linux' not-that-optimal elevator and write behaviour this has good chances of costing a lot of performance. TCQ will obviously help, but I somehow doubt it will work fine - even with SCSI TCQ is a nightmare (the aic7xxx drive regularly kills my system if tagged queueing is enabled for example). IDE currently is a mess (I do _not_ expect my drive performance to simply halve just because two devices to share the bus, even if this is how conservative ide is destined to work). I am convinced that there is a way of creating a hard write barrier (e.g. a cache flush that waits) with most if not all ide disks - putting them into powersave should work, if nothing else ;) So apart from driver issues (such as TCQ), the mid-layer needs to be improved (and plans already exist) to support semi-ordered writes and give as much control over the device cache as possible. Not to mention that the VM needs improvements here as well. I didn't say much more than Alan implied: we have to live with it, so we better think about making it work. -- -----==- | ----==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ ____ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=====/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | |