Markus Törnqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:34:50PM -0400, Horst von Brand wrote: > >David Masover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I think Hans (or someone) decided that when hardware stops working, it's > >> not the job of the FS to compensate, it's the job of lower layers, or > >> better, the job of the admin to replace the disk and restore from > >> backups.
> >Handling other people's data this way is just reckless irresponsibility. > >Sure, you can get high performance if you just forego some of your basic > >responsibilities. > Your honest-to-bog opinion is that the FS vendor is responsible for > the admin not taking backups or the hardware vendor shipping crap? No. But just relying on perfect hardware and concientious sysadmins is reckless. Hardware /is/ flaky, sysadmins /are/ (sometimes) lazy (and besides, today they are increasingly just plain Joe Sixpack users). Also, backing up a few hundred GiB is /not/ fun, and then keeping track of all the backups is messy. Also, I'm not claiming that they are /solely/ responsible, but not having the filesystem fall apart utterly every time some bug breaths on it /is/ a requirement. > *still trying to understand how that can be* You haven't been around too much yet, do you? -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile Fax: +56 32 797513