Hi Ed,

WOW ! I noticed the differences for local parameters between the two
versions, but never tested a completed diffusion tensor optimization...
The differences are huge ! They're so big that users should probably
tell which version they used when publishing... i.e.
ModelFree-4.20-Portland or ModelFree-4.20-gcc...

Also, maybe you're right, maybe the speed is not the best test for
quality here...

What do you think about simply printing a few lines summarising the text
below in the user manual, hence in the code as some comments ?

Ciao


Séb


Edward d'Auvergne wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've noticed this difference too.  But I think I'm too much of a
> Fortran sceptic!  A long time ago, I went through the Modelfree4
> source code with a fine toothed comb and found 4 bugs in there.  A few
> of these were code issues which had no effect on the Portland compiler
> (well the compilation part anyway) but was causing gcc to complain
> loudly.  Rightfully so as there was an undeclared variable used as a
> counter in a loop - it's value was garbage.  One of the bugs was a
> problem with the Levenberg-Marquardt algorithm and that, together with
> the other problems found in:
>
> d'Auvergne, E. J. and Gooley, P. R. (2008). Optimisation of NMR
> dynamic models I. Minimisation algorithms and their performance within
> the model-free and Brownian rotational diffusion spaces. J. Biomol.
> NMR, 40(2), 107-119. (http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s10858-007-9214-2)
>
> was the reason for Modelfree 4.20 to be released.  The other bugs
> caught by gcc, and the undeclared variable were the reason for
> Modelfree 4.16 
> (http://cpmcnet.columbia.edu/dept/gsas/biochem/labs/palmer/software/modelfree.html).
>  So I'm not sure if the speed of the two binaries is the best measure
> of quality.  It could be that the Portland version is faster due to a
> bug.  Or that the gcc one is slower due to higher precision.  Who
> knows?
>
> I'm not sure how we could advise the user.  Maybe a print out at the
> start of palmer.execute()?  I think it would be best to advise the
> user to only use Modelfree4 as a test and that it should be compared
> to the much higher precision - hence slower - relax results.  It might
> also be worth stating that the Portland and gcc versions give
> different results.  Eg in the system test I created for it, one finds
> the diffusion tensors:
>
> gcc:
> tm = 8.964
> Dratio = 1.324
> theta = -52.070
> phi = 2.377
>
> Portland:
> tm = 8.443
> Dratio = 1.053
> theta = 68.864
> phi = 73.913
>
> There is no glide or reflection symmetry here, so the results are
> quite different.
>
> Regards,
>
> Edward
>
>   



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