Hi Edward,

>> But if [AMBER11] gives me de facto corrupted files I maybe just should use 
>> the
>> attach_protons function of relax!
> 
> Note these are not equivalent.  The relax attach_protons function does
> not create atomic coordinates for the new protons whereas AMBER's
> does.  This means that you cannot use it for the spheroidal or
> ellipsoidal diffusion tensors in a model-free analysis.

Oh, I didn't realize that. I just used the (corrupted) AMBER-generated PDB 
files which worked fine with relax 2.

>  You should
> understand how AMBER places these protons and how other programs do
> this too.  I hope that one day relax will be able to do this, but that
> will require a volunteer to add the algorithm.

In case someone stumbles upon this thread in the future, there is documentation 
for the reduce function 
(http://kinemage.biochem.duke.edu/software/readme.reduce.html) which refers to 
the following publication:

Word JM, Lovell SC, Richardson JS, Richardson DC (1999) Asparagine and 
glutamine: using hydrogen atom contacts in the choice of side-chain amide 
orientation. J Mol Biol 285: 1735–1747. 
http://www.pibs.duke.edu/downloads/PDFs/1999WordJMB285b.pdf

>> Probably the conformational differences are too small to make a real
>> difference in the subsequent MF analysis, given how large the actual errors 
>> of
>> my rates etc actually are. I will look into this and if there's any
>> difference, report back here.
> 
> I unfortunately don't understand what this means.  But if you mean
> bond vector orientations, the relaxation rates are highly sensitive to
> these even with low levels of anisotropy.

To be honest, even I'm not understanding it. This was just a unqualified 
comment to reassure myself that something that looks so bad in the first place 
(a rather simplistic model of the spectral density function, a reduced set of 
parameters with huge errors, imperfect pulse programs, uncertainties in the 
X-ray structures and also the artificial addition of protons, and many 
variables I can't perfectly control) can yield interesting and reproducable 
data. You know, it's just the hope I will get some results I can work with. 

Cheers,
Martin



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